GTS T or GTR???

[GTR 94]

well i own a R 33 GTS T and this afternoon as i was making my way home and i come across an R 33 GTR V-Spec, (well yes the car of my dreams!) so slowly i creep behind as we aproch the lights! the driver notices me and gives a little grin (mind you driver is roughly in his 40's) lights are green and he lets the clutch out leeding me to belive he is just another old fart driving a magnificent car at only a quarter of its potential, but then with a fuel dump bluring my vision for a split second he was gone! wow its on. releasing all possiable horses i grab the stick shift to second then third pulling beside him at the next red light!

his wife also older giggling and smilling as i chuckle and listen to the sound of two magnificant cars stalling at about 2200rpm (well thats what i was at) lights are green and where off (RACING) so off the lights wheel spinning (as all GTS T's do) i find my self only half a GTR behind as i click second feeling the rear trying to pass me still as i try to retain traction slip to third out to about 6600rpm and were both off the gas pop to fith and puring down the road like a quire on a perfect note. but only finishing half a car behind???

THIS HAS ME PUZZLED! i understand his only got .1 of a litre more but one extra turbo and probbably 15,000 dollars more for roughly .500 of a second quicker. i dont no, it was roughly 200 meters was he just playing or was it seriously close maybe another 200 meters and would i have prefered to be walking???

this has NOT changed my mind of course i still want one but maybe not for the power anymore!

any thoughts would be great!!!

[JET-33]

trust me, stock, or with the same mods...

a gtst will never EVER come anywhere near a gtr...they r absolutley fkn incredible...the handling and traction r 2nd to none, and then the power itself will destroy a gtst...plus their potential is leap years ahead

[Leon.T]

a fake GTR?

[Jamezilla]

Remember the driver is a factor too.

Take yesterday for example - Gerald's R34 is stock - and there was no-way in hell I could keep up with him.

Why? He's a better driver. Simple.

So... perhaps your GTR driver was taking it easy, perhaps he's juts not that quick on gear changes...

GTRs are very fast when in the right hands - just ask Jet

[JET-33]

Gerald made all the gtrs look slow just because of his driving skills

he left jag, jamezilla and leewah 4 dead, and he had a stock 34....yeh it is a 34 gtr but leewahs is makes 500rwkw...

GO THE GTR!

[Raza]

sorry to say...there is a 2.5 r33 gts in QLD that is pulling 10 sec..

[inark]

and? thats a highly modified GTST

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Raza

sorry to say...there is a 2.5 r33 gts in QLD that is pulling 10 sec..

so?? there are about 2 at the moment, pump around 30g into your car and yours will do 10's 2

[Raza]

all i was saying never say never...

there are gts-t that will beat most gtr's and yes there are gtrs that will beat them...

[JET-33]

of course it will beat it with all those mods, but prob only in a striaght line

we r talkin stock..or with exact same mods to each...

their potential is 10 fold that of an rb25, and u just cant compare with attessa

[Zdenko]

isnt straight line what we r talking about????

why does every one say.. " but prob only in a striaght line "

i dont understand this

when have you ever had a lil run with some one and ended up turning corners .. i dont know about us but ive never done a 2 fast and 2 furios job cause personally i think its stupid and more dangerious then straight line... i had the exact same arguement with a guy in an integra... he goes.. yeh u can beat me straight line but what about corners?? wtf?? when do u ever take corners at 80 90 ks on da road and how often do u go onb da track.... plus considering most . if not all 10 sec cars and under are all rear wheel drives anways...... who cares about corners...

[predator]

Its not like you can't drive a RWD hard into corners either you just gotta choose a different line and shoot out the other side. It just takes a bit more thought and control that's all. The gts-t skylines (esp the 33) aren't that well balanced for a RWD setup as some.

I think the key is a 4WD is pretty much idiot proof where as a RWD it is less so... a lot of track cars are all RWD as well. You don't notice F1 cars being 4WD do you?? lol.

You give one unexperienced driver a FWD and another a RWD, and the FWD will be better around corners... Anyway, Honda drivers.. pft..

[Zdenko]

lol @ honda drivers

i know what u mean

trust me

...

grrr @ honda drivers annoy the shit oout of me

[predator]

* free bucket of rice with every purchase

[Zdenko]

lol

yeh tell me about it

i got this mate

who recons hondas arnt rice cars

that skylines are bigger ricers hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

my stomach still hurts from laughing so hard

[Guest RaBZ3174]

was the so called gtr losing traction ? if so couldev been a fake cauz theres no way in hell a gtst could keep up with a gtr i dunno im puzzled

[Zdenko]

what do stock gtrs run on da 1/4 mile?

[inark]

depends on what type... 13.5s i think from memory... depends on the driver i spose

[Zdenko]

13.5 to a 14.1 .6 hmm yeh i guess thats a fair bit of distance between the 2 ahha

maybe that guy driving da GTR was a puss and didnt know how to drive

[Mick Trainer]

Mnay people have run real low thirteens (13.02) and even into the 12's with a standard GTR. Stock for stock the GTR will be considerably faster.

And for the record there is a lot more too All Wheel drive than just being idiot proof. With an experienced/knowledable they will get far more out of a car with All Wheel Drive than a rear wheel drive car as it allows the driver to get more power too the ground at any one time as well as allowing the driver to get on the power far earlier into the corner and too do it with more gusto. Of course you can get a 2wd car around corners quick but it is a different league in regards AWD. Some AWD car have excessive understeer as they turn into a corner and push through when pushed too hard. The GTR does not suffer this but can have excessive oversteer but small mods can alter this to make the car extremely neutral in it handling when combined with the traction that AWD provides it is hard to beat when really pushing through the twisty stuff.

Mick.