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yeah in principal i agree, but still doesn't deserve to be laughed at we're not Nelson

and i still think there could be extenuating circumstances that we have no idea about

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Almost any part of the car I understand...

The timing belt is the key to an engine running like clockwork... Why replace it with a 2nd hand item, once again no excuse for it - Your going to do it, enjoy a bashed motor. Yes I thought its laugh worthy, goes to show how much value this kid puts on his car...

Stop jumping down my back after I post

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If you can afford to build a built RB26, and NOT a atleast brand new timing belt... What the...?

There is NO decent reason for someone using a 2nd hand timing belt, none what so ever. Leave the car off the road untill you can afford it..

'He needed to get to work on Monday' Babow - Car pool? Catch public transport... No reason is worth smashing a motor let alone a built RB26. Imo Its funny... If your going to be silly enough to do that then enjoy the piston and valve making love. Its not a misforutune... Its straight up stupidity. I would feel for someone that spins a bearing in a RB26... That is misfortune... Not replacing parts on an engine, one as vital as a timing belt with dodgy 2nd hand sh!t...

Not having a go Weezy, but with that logic, anyone who spins a bearing should also be laughed at.....can you tell me what the most common reason is for spinning a brg?

Your correct answer will show you that they're stupid as well.....not misfortunate. :)

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I have to agree with weezy on this one. Even when I was a 20 yr old noob who knew nothing abou cars, the one thing that was hammered into me again and again from mechanically inclined friends was 'replace the timing belt, its cheaper than having to repair the damages when it goes'. Its almost common knowledge (i cant presume that everyone can read or interpret technical notation when it comes to tensillary strength or wear and tear.

I'd also argue sled, that those who spin bearings a) dont replenish their oil or b) punish their cars more than what it was originally sold as - and by that I mean a street car. Only people I ever read about spinning bearings are those who dont service their car often enough or those that are doing trackduties with the racing grade oil pumps without the head restrictor.

Contrary to popular opinion, one can run a stock oil pump for daily use, as well as some track days. It doesnt have the high feed as a nitto/nismo/tomei etc oil pump, and hence does not require the head restrictor. What it does do however is not cavitate under high RPM, so for an entry level track car/daily, an N1 oil pump should be the go.

If I was to switch to a highflo oil pump, I'd get the restrictors, baffles, and all of that, but for a lot of people on this forum (like me) its just absolute overkill. For a streeter, keep the n1 pump (with a collar if you have an early model32) and then just get a welch plug return from the rear of the head to the sump. Head baffles from mines are handy too...

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Almost any part of the car I understand...

The timing belt is the key to an engine running like clockwork... Why replace it with a 2nd hand item, once again no excuse for it - Your going to do it, enjoy a bashed motor. Yes I thought its laugh worthy, goes to show how much value this kid puts on his car...

Stop jumping down my back after I post

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Fishpaste wasn't unfortunate?

Wayne, unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with Luke's circumstances but in the 20 years that I was involved in engine reconditioning I learnt that in 98 out of 100 cases, whenever I came across a spun brg, you'd almost always point the finger back at the customer.

Brgs spin for a reason, not usually because of unfortunate circumstances.

I'd also argue sled, that those who spin bearings a) dont replenish their oil or b) punish their cars more than what it was originally sold as - and by that I mean a street car. Only people I ever read about spinning bearings are those who dont service their car often enough or those that are doing trackduties with the racing grade oil pumps without the head restrictor.

That pretty much argues my case that it's not just one of those unfortunate mishaps.

Brgs under perfect conditions are protected from the journal by a film of oil.....when you burn that oil (via overheating) or intoduce dirt into the mix (by not changing your oil regularly) or breaking it's composition down with fuel (blow-by because of worn rings) or oil surge when you're on the limiter (a very common one with RB's) then you can only blame yourself.

Nothing unfortunate about any of that and all preventable.

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Sorry Martin, but I'll be keeping that to myself.

Sled; Im awear of how the oil lubricating system in an IC engine works, and I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable excuses as to how your engine could starve the bearings of oil and cause it to throw bearings. - But I struggle to find an excuse as to why anyone would use a 2nd hand item such as a timing belt etc on a BUILT RB26, after been given the warning of not to use it and persueing on using it.

Can we all move on?

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Sorry Martin, but I'll be keeping that to myself.

Sled; Im awear of how the oil lubricating system in an IC engine works, and I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable excuses as to how your engine could starve the bearings of oil and cause it to throw bearings. - But I struggle to find an excuse as to why anyone would use a 2nd hand item such as a timing belt etc on a BUILT RB26, after been given the warning of not to use it and persueing on using it.

Can we all move on?

you opened the can of worms wayne

less arguing, more pics

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Sorry Martin, but I'll be keeping that to myself.

Sled; Im awear of how the oil lubricating system in an IC engine works, and I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable excuses as to how your engine could starve the bearings of oil and cause it to throw bearings. - But I struggle to find an excuse as to why anyone would use a 2nd hand item such as a timing belt etc on a BUILT RB26, after been given the warning of not to use it and persueing on using it.

Can we all move on?

yeah fair enough Wayne, and I'm not arguing the timing belt issue...that's something between you and Madaz that I'm staying out of, unless it gets nasty.

I was just giving you an answer (based on my experience) as to why engines (most times) spin brgs......just a discussion dude but unfortunately it's hard to relay mood & sentiment on the PC without someone thinking they're being targeted :D

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Didn't someone spin a bearing after missing second gear and smashing the limiter on a cold engine? I agree with Wayne though, why spend the 10+ thousand on building a forged motor how hard is it to spend the extra hundred dollars to get a timing belt? 2 smashed motors you have to wonder what hes doing to them..

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Didn't someone spin a bearing after missing second gear and smashing the limiter on a cold engine? I agree with Wayne though, why spend the 10+ thousand on building a forged motor how hard is it to spend the extra hundred dollars to get a timing belt? 2 smashed motors you have to wonder what hes doing to them..

Fishy. But it was a ball-bearing from the oil cooler or something that did it? Or the oil filter?

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theres a ball and spring in the filter boss on the engine that allows oil pressure to build when you first start the engine, fishys decided it wanted to take a guided tour around the bottom end of his motor.

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