Rann Rant

[craig R33]

the amount of people getting cought has risen, because the amount of fixed cameras has risen....

we arent speeding more, just getting cought more..think about it.

i got flashed 2 weeks ago in my work car on anzacs, i was on 61, i always slow down for fixed cameras, even if im not speeding!

id like to see if my company gets an expiation notice for this, i will contest it for sure.

[ev0luti0nzer0]

^ yerp, pretty logical..

You see a fixed speed camera. Immediately Slowdown.

lols, damned mobile ones are a bitch though, got to look for the [LPG] diamond on the plate

Edited June 20, 2008 by ev0luti0nzer0

[SLED]

Think the 10% rule has changed here as well, not 100% sure on that...Just came back from Victoria a couple of weekends ago, and my dad's cousin who we spent a fair bit of time with is an ex cop and his wife is a cop and they don't have a % rule its 3km's over the limit thats it pinged...

Thing i don't get is we have an ADR rule that says your speedo must be accurate to within 10% of the nominated speed sign...Now apparently the state governments have decided they rule the roost and they've set their own % for speedo accuracy?? Doesn't sound right does it

yeah I knew it was 3km over in VIC because I got done for 63 in a hire car....the company told me that it was a 5% rule which would then make sense, but if its as you say, 3km period, then at 100km most cars are at least 4 or 5 km out......just not reasonable.

We used to be able to do 69 in a 60 zone awhile ago without fear but last December they apparently lowered the grace amount over the limit and have kept it secret because they know people will drive up to that extra allowable limit otherwise. I'm pretty sure its 10% now and they haven't followed VIC's 3km deal yet but they won't tell you when they do.

[heslo]

Yes it is crap but unfortunately not much we can do about it...

Read this site, very interesting information, basically goes on how speed cameras have done 9/10th's of f**k all to reduce death tolls on our roads...

[Madaz]

just becuase THEY Claim they have changed the law doesnt mean they actually have

we all remember the bicycle and thought it was law for us to drive out of them well that was just a council initiative

They alleged i was doing 147 in a 100 zone and i wasn't, so in SA if that went to court and i plead guilty to it that's instant loss of licence but because i knew i was mostly in the right i decided to fight it

it took almost 2 years going in and out of court and $1500 but @ least i kept my license have got one more thing to add to my record (goes platinum soon) and at that time i was driving to the rocking horse to pick my daughter up and hand her over every week

so i proved (with my solicitor and an ex copper that's an expert in the field of lasers and laser guns by that it cost $700 just for his report) that the laser gun wasn't properly calibrated and was too long ago also but funnily enough they have a hand written piece of paper saying it had been calibrated 2 days prior to the alleged offence

so all in all i didn't take it to trial because i couldn't stand on the witness stand and say i was doing 100kph but we got the 147 in a 100 zone dropped to 90 in a 80 zone and $90 fine no loss of demerits and no conviction recorded i was happy enough with that because deep down i know that's them admitting there wrong

/big ass storey

[Murry33]

i agree, it's bullshit i think those cameras are much more sensitive than they used to be. somehow i got done and i didn't even notice......i've even got speed alert on my daily to alert me my damn speed lol!

Edited June 20, 2008 by DRIV3R

[kalel]

they used to have a 10% tolerance on the camera detection setting, so it would only go off if you were doing 10% over the speed limit, i.e. 66 in a 60 zone.

I think in recent years they changed it to 5% which makes it 63 kph. people still thinking they have 10% up there sleeve are getting caught, hence the increase in number of detections and revenue.

I think the change in the tolerance is simply revenue raising. It is not uncommone for people's speedo to be out by as much as 10%, particularly in older cars, and in some cases even the newer cars.

the error in the speedo is not linear either. so it may be out by 10% at 60 and only 3% at 110. Manufacturers generally try and minimize the error as much as possible, but it is not always the case that it is minimised at 60 or 80 or what not.

EDIT

Have you noticed how the signs placed after the mobile (car) speed cameras now say safety cameras save lives rather than 'Speed' cameras save lives. They are no longer Speed cameras, but safety cameras.

Edited June 20, 2008 by kalel

[heslo]

Noticed that too Dan, makes me laugh every time

[Boof]

Yes it is crap but unfortunately not much we can do about it...

Read this site, very interesting information, basically goes on how speed cameras have done 9/10th's of f**k all to reduce death tolls on our roads...

Ahh yes..Take the visual deterent away and introduce hidden deterents...As much as i hate to say it, i'd prefer to see police cars on the road and cop an on the spot fine for speeding then see less police cars on the road and cop a fine 4 weeks later!!

note : When i say more police cars on the road i mean in the essence of catching people speeding/illegal U turns at lights etc etc not more police officers for defect city style stuff

[Madaz]

yeah agreed Shane Police Pr essence is missing on the roads and thats why we have so many thefts during day time hours very brazen in some cases

[chef_stagea]

to add to my frustration on this topic... me and kidafa were driving from victa to goolwa lastnight.. a white magna tailgating me all the way threw victa, i was doing exact speed limit in the stag, he pulls off like a shower of Sh&t, over takes n zooms off... next town i caught him again and he proseedes to do 60 in a 100 zone... rb25 flat to the boards... cyaaa mate i was doing like 130ish as it was dark etc tryed to get back in asap... he over takes doing atleast 150 160 striat past a shitter slide spec rolla and a cop... and the cop pulls the rolla over probly just to D him for not much :S was fairrrr peaking any way.... end rant **spotted delichefs stagea after so it calmed me down **

[Howie]

Read today's paper anyone?

Headline reads ...

We'll pay to save lives

Basically the government in an "effort" to curb road fatalities will be implementing

* More fixed red light cameras (they forget to mention that they double as speeding cameras)

* and more importantly Point to Point speeding cameras! so if you happen to enter a road then exit a road and the average km/h works out to be more than the limit you get pinged. Problems associated with this are overtaking etc.

Apparently this is not a Money GRAB!!!!! Yeah right. Rann you're out in 2010.

[SLED]

hmmmmm.....yeah I saw that too.

Only issue I have is when you see the hair dryers being used on downhill runs and in areas that never record fatalities......don't tell me that's not revenue raising?!

[Damo_R34]

There was a story on NSW's second highest revenue raising camera on today tonight last night. One lady had received 8 fines from the one camera, and most of the fines were appealed in front of a magistrate. The magistrate said as the govt department stated "they do not care if it raises $0 a year, its there to protect lives", that if he had any doubt about the circumstance, he would waive the fine! Bet the NSW Government is spitting chips now.

[ev0luti0nzer0]

Definately, out by 2010! Third strike YOURE OUT MR RANN!

[craig R33]

^ agreed! bye bye mr rann ....... (replace internet icon with mr ranns ass)

[Damo_R34]

Go Panthers!

[ev0luti0nzer0]

hahaha, on the news just now (Ten), theyre talking about something to do with vehicle defects.

[Boof]

yer Rann and Rudd both gone next time around...

Only problem is, bring martin hamilton-smith in and whats he going to do or not for the state???? Their all theifs anyways!

[heslo]

Go Panthers