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philta Community Regular

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ROFL, i have a spare r34 flywheel that was gunna go to my manual conversion until i lost my license. im willing to "invest" if i see some petroleum returns. :D

and a few random bits and pieces in the shed, recaro bucket seats etc etc, its a start :bunny:.

quoting terry

"Na ! All our problems can be solved LEGALLY !

Q. Are there enough spares advertised on SAU to build a car from the ground up?

A. Yeh - some shitty, some good.

Q. Do we have enough savvy members of SAU who can build cars faster than a speeding bullet?

A. Absolutely !

Q. Do we have any members who can look Arab especially with a beard.

A. I'd say so.

Q. Are there any SAU members in Sales?

A. Yep - sure are.

Q. Well why don't we use our consortium to export Getaway cars to Iraq and swap them for full tankers ?

A."

its a start to a get away car

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Roy Grand Master

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What annoys me is that Australia has enough reserves and refineries (foreign owned) to almost be self supported and therefore sheltered from global oil prices!

Only years ago, out retarded politicians as always lacked the planning skills required of a government and sold the rights to our reserves to OS oil companies. The catch, the Aus govt didnt have to absorb the cost of exploration and refining so they lazily collected the millions from the sale and patted themselves on the back.

Why would an OS oil company be interested? Well the Aus govt agreed that the oil from our fields would be sold locally at global rates. So even if a barrell of oil is costing the earth OS, well we pay the ungodly price. Rather then the price for our only locally sourced oil.

FARKIGN GOVERNMENTS! Its true, the dumbest kids from school are always the ones 20 years later who somehow find themselves in charge of us all :)

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as from now, fuel companies have stopped midweek price discounts :down:

... for the forseeable future too :huh:

I wondered why the fk BP was still $1.44 for 98 on TUESDAY night.

If it ever goes really high at least we'll have e85? :D (Only some people have access to it though I guess :<)

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Well looks like it never did reach $2.50L.. yet.

I wonder when it will ever reach the point of becoming unviable for us to use petrol. I dont think the oil companies will ever want it to reach this point because then we will invest to much into alternate fuels research, invent or discover a fuel source that will be cheap and work as well as petrol then they will get next to nothing for the oil. I mean at (or before) $1.50L biodiesel and ethanol start to become viable. At $3L it would have probably crossed the point where its economically viable to farm mass amounts of algae in alice springs to convert to biodiesel. The more expensive petrol becomes the less we will depend on it.

Maybe in 20 years petrol mainstream use will be history, it will only be used by historic combustion engine car enthusiasts on the track, because demand is so low it will cost $0.35 per litre so we will all have massive 450ci v8's that drip raw gasoline from the tailpipe

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I wondered why the fk BP was still $1.44 for 98 on TUESDAY night.

If it ever goes really high at least we'll have e85? :huh: (Only some people have [easy] access to it though I guess :<)

yeah, me- 'coz i live one suburb from the only petrol station in nsw that currently sells it :down:

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Well looks like it never did reach $2.50L.. yet.

I wonder when it will ever reach the point of becoming unviable for us to use petrol. I dont think the oil companies will ever want it to reach this point because then we will invest to much into alternate fuels research, invent or discover a fuel source that will be cheap and work as well as petrol then they will get next to nothing for the oil. I mean at (or before) $1.50L biodiesel and ethanol start to become viable. At $3L it would have probably crossed the point where its economically viable to farm mass amounts of algae in alice springs to convert to biodiesel. The more expensive petrol becomes the less we will depend on it.

Maybe in 20 years petrol mainstream use will be history, it will only be used by historic combustion engine car enthusiasts on the track, because demand is so low it will cost $0.35 per litre so we will all have massive 450ci v8's that drip raw gasoline from the tailpipe

no it will be the opposite. it will be super expensive because there will be so little oil left that production is low, and also because so few cars will use it that production will be small scale so the oil companies will be able to charge what they like for it.

r33cruiser Grand Master

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you like digging up old threads don't you

Yes he does.

But just goes to show how stupid OP is for being swept up in the whole end of the world, no oil, petrol $$$ era that was 2008.

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e85 is only cheap at the moment due to heavy government subsidies. Wait until those stop and the price suddenly jumps by 100% overnight, but then on top of that 50%+ of supermarket foods cost an extra 20-30% because the cost of sugar, grain and corn has gone through the roof due to demand from ethanol producers.

scotty nm35 Grand Master

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You forget that ethanol can be made in your own backyard using the green waste you send to the tip. ;)

There is a lot of waste in the industries you named, more than enough to cover current supply, the problem will be when petrol prices skyrocket and everyone demands ethanol. It will never be the whole answer, just a small part.

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Your yard would have to be very big to grow enough to power your car though. Not enough space on earth for all cars to be running ethanol, from what i've heard.

The Bogan Grand Master

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I filled up at 95.6c. I love running e85. ;)

Damn the car drinks it though.

I was going to go the E85 tune but then I like getting in my car and going for long cruises, like two day drives with the better half (after dumping the kids the their grandparents,lol) but until there is more servos with this all I could do was blockies or tow a trailer with a 200ltr drum of it.

Will the Supercar of the future fix this, lets hope so.

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Im getting 400ks to 60l at the moment, if I drive nice. Also, I chose my engine management so I would have 2 maps, e85 and 98, its switchable from the dash.

All the new vehicles coming out with flex fuel capability have an ethanol content detector and automatically vary the maps depending on the amount of ethanol in the tank, these are already being retrofitted in to older cars just like a gas conversion.

I think there will only be more servos with it when there is enough demand so get on board.

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