The Battle For Japanese Supercar Stardom Begins Anew

[m3gtr]

But N1 > NSXR and GTR R34 > NSX

and the R34 u just listed was stock but with the speed limiter removed.. it was the fastest production car around the ring.. including the NSXR

Im gonna need more than that. Info on this is hard to find.

*goes away to shuffle through japanese websites looking for KO blow*

[Bumblebee]

8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) 280 PS/1230 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 02/06

there u go slower than the R33

8:09 Honda NSX-R 320 PS/1467 kg Sport Auto 08/02 Sport tires, suspension modification

8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 280 PS/1430 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD

8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/99 Sport tires

8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/02 Sport tires

8:38 Honda NSX Sport Auto, 08/97

[Bumblebee]

as u can see the r32 even best most of the current crop cars...

but to tell u the truth..

i would own a nsxr over almost all those cars.. cept for my gtr and the r34 N1 lol

[m3gtr]

Mustve been driven by my nanna.

whats this then? Nurburgring time : 7:56 mins

[R338OY]

Torque 304 nm / 224.2 ft lbs @ 5300 rpm

I expected more than that

[Bumblebee]

thats the incomplete lap u were talkin about... which mind u is still slower than the R34 lap time...

[m3gtr]

Im aware the R34 was faster around a circuit but 0-400 times specifically is what im after.

Its damn hard to find anything accurate even though proof has been shown of the NSX trouncing the R32, 33 and 34 in a 400 metre dash.

Its hard to find data on the NSX - R quarter time and even harder to find GTR N1 times.///../

But, find em i will.

[Bumblebee]

Look i dont see what the point is in arguring over the past..

R34 won back then.. it doesnt matter because honda wasnt never competeing with the GTR or the Supra

But it is now.. Honda has made a claim that it wont come out until it whips the GTR.. and its a proper direct competition.. something that it never was despite what u might think m3gtr...

Toyota never said THIS SUPRA WILL KILL THE GTR.. or THE NSX IS A GTR KILLER... never ever.. thats something that us as customers have taken upon ourselves to do..

This time thou, its different like i said and honda is on a mission to knock the gtr off the podium and it will

[m3gtr]

Look i dont see what the point is in arguring over the past..

R34 won back then.. it doesnt matter because honda wasnt never competeing with the GTR or the Supra

But it is now.. Honda has made a claim that it wont come out until it whips the GTR.. and its a proper direct competition.. something that it never was despite what u might think m3gtr...

Toyota never said THIS SUPRA WILL KILL THE GTR.. or THE NSX IS A GTR KILLER... never ever.. thats something that us as customers have taken upon ourselves to do..

This time thou, its different like i said and honda is on a mission to knock the gtr off the podium and it will

Its not an argument. The NSX is faster than any of the previous gen GTR's to 400 metres.

The GTR was not faster over a 1/4 mile when stock and if youd read the previous posts you would have seen that was the point in contention.

That and the fact the N1 was NOT a full volume factory production model but a stripped down, handbuilt special.

Thats why, i have asked if anyone knows more about the N! and the more hardcore NSX R GT

[Bumblebee]

but it wasnt the fastest.. like i said b4.. theres a guy on OUR forums who has run a 12.4 with his stock r32 gtr...

[R338OY]

Argue all you want, all the data you find will be unreliable.

The OEM's say one thing (lies) and drivers, journo's, enthusiasts etc. do their own tests which aren't verifiable, ON TOP of the fact you're comparing data, with the GTR for eg., that can't be compared because you know at least one data-set (Nissan's) is a pile of BS.

You need these cars, factory spec, and a 2WD dyno, drag strip, on a 22-degree morning.

[madbung]

Ding..ding ding

Round 5

[m3gtr]

but it wasnt the fastest.. like i said b4.. theres a guy on OUR forums who has run a 12.4 with his stock r32 gtr...

Stock? Stock with nittos perhaps, lol.

What is this Bung? Looks like a tag team now.

Damnm, im cut above the left eye.

[madbung]

I am becoming slightly concerned for you....But whats your motto?

I'll take all comers ....... now don't forget it.

Takes a swarm to fell a giant

If you get tired..or just need a piss tag in Dr Doof..I know he's your cuts man but he'll have to do.

Edited July 4, 2008 by madbung

[m3gtr]

I am becoming slightly concerned for you....But whats your motto?

I'll take all comers now don't forget it.

Takes a swarm to fell a giant

If you get tired..or just need a piss tag in Dr Doof

*tags Doctor Death*

( a few seconds later )

*reaches for beer*

gubgubgubgub.

[madbung]

Aw man you missed my witty edit...

Mmm beer

[Juan]

man i would love to drive a NSX-R pure driving pleasure no electronics

[Bumblebee]

he posted it was stock.. but ur probably right.. it might have had tyres

as for driving pleasure.. apart from no electronics.. that VTEC sound comin frmo a V6... mmmmmmm tantalizing

[skyline_man]

Skyline man: Re the Z tune: The entire car is essentially handmade, with the car being completely stripped and re-built from the chassis up.

production car

pro·duc·tion car (plural pro·duc·tion cars)

noun Definition: car manufactured on production line: a car of a type manufactured in large numbers on a production line for general use

Stripping a car and modifying it, isn't production.

So you're saying that a hand built car isn't a production car? It doesn't matter how the car is built, whether by hand, feet, legs, by chimps or even idiots etc etc....If a company builds a car up to specs that makes it road safe, past emission tests, at least 15 models etc etc, then it qualifies as a production car. The Z-tune qualifies as a production car and IT IS a production car. Do your research moron! The Mclaren F1 was totally built by hand from the carbon fibre body to the engine etc, and it was not built on an assembly line. It is a production car. So from your logic, the Mclaren F1 isn't a production car as well?

Moron, Pronunciation:

\ˈmȯr-ˌän\

Function:

noun

Etymology:

irregular from Greek mōros foolish, stupid

Edited July 4, 2008 by skyline_man

[DRD-00F]

*puts bourbon down* oh sif tag me in

Quite simply put... IT WASN'T PRODUCED BY THEM! It was modified... somewhat extensively, and 21 times, but it is still a modified original... The definition i have there for production cars is very flawed, it was the first one I found, but you can't argue that it's a modified original... Not to mention second hand...

It's a great car (god is jealous) and while it is endorsed by Nissan and is their crowning achievment thus far, it still isn't a production car...