Blaster can kiss my f**king ass!!!

[Tosh]

B-Man, yes there was a vulnerability in the windows operating system. However the the vulnerability was hacked by someone who decided to exploit it to send a worm around the net. Now had this person not intentionally created a program to exploit this vulnerability then everything would be fine.

I don't believe Microsoft are to be held accountable for what happened. It happened because some idiot decided to be a prick. The only person responsible for shit network performance due to packet loss is the person who wrote this worm. I have also recently been made aware that Microsoft did have a patch available to cure this vulnerablility (although I am reserving my judgement on the accuracy of this info). So therefore in my mind they found a problem and supplied a solution to it. I'll bet money on the fact that not 1 person I took a call from about this issue applied that patch.

[benm]

The patch was actually available quite abit before this worm made its appearance (I believe around 2 mths earlier).

But then again how many people even know how to switch off their PC correctly let alone logon to WindowsUpdate.com

[B-Man]

No. But thats Microsoft for you !

So do you agree that it is unfair ?

B-Man, yes there was a vulnerability in the windows operating system. However the the vulnerability was hacked by someone who decided to exploit it to send a worm around the net. Now had this person not intentionally created a program to exploit this vulnerability then everything would be fine.  

I don't believe Microsoft are to be held accountable for what happened. It happened because some idiot decided to be a prick. The only person responsible for shit network performance due to packet loss is the person who wrote this worm. I have also recently been made aware that Microsoft did have a patch available to cure this vulnerablility (although I am reserving my judgement on the accuracy of this info). So therefore in my mind they found a problem and supplied a solution to it. I'll bet money on the fact that not 1 person I took a call from about this issue applied that patch.

I just think commercial operating systems should quality control their products better - MS are making quillions so they should be able to afford too. The vulerability was Microsoft's problem in the first place in my mind - had it not been there - No Blaster. Simple as that in my mind. I know all software vendors release product with bugs - but I reckon they should test it better before they release it - Not Linux and GPL software cause no-one makes $$ out of that the same way MS, Oracle, Peoplesoft, SAP, etc make money.

Imagine if SAP had a bug in their payroll module - then some shmuck decides to exploit it because he's pissed with his brother-in-law or whatever. And becasue of the exploit - no one gets paid for 2 months while SAP write and distribute the patch - That woiuld be un-acceptable right ? SAP's fault right ?

Software is software - you pay for a product - It should work.

That's only my view of course - And I do tend to wear rose coloured glasses looking at the perfect world out there - Cause I am pretty perfect myself, NOT.

Cheers

[T0nyGTSt]

They way I think about it is this.

I can forgive Microsoft if it was an XP only bug.

But it affects ALL NT4 based systems going back to 1996.

And it's not a hard bug to fix.

That shows a bit of incompetance from Microsoft.

T.

[Tosh]

the point for me though is that they offered a patch/solution to the problem before it was exploited.

[benm]

Originally posted by B-Man

So do you agree that it is unfair ?

Yes I agree its unfair but nothing will be changed to fix the problem.

Software is software - you pay for a product - It should work.

When you pay for this product... then take it home.... remove it from the plastic... rip through the T&C's that state that no responsibility will be take for blah blah blah you have just laid the blame on yourself for anything that goes wrong.

[B-Man]

When you pay for this product... then take it home.... remove it from the plastic... rip through the T&C's that state that no responsibility will be take for blah blah blah you have just laid the blame on yourself for anything that goes wrong.

Yes I know - and that's not fair either - All care and no responsibility.

I know I'm discussing this pointlessly - Everyone just accepts it - However, if we all didn't just accept the situation - the software vendors would do different - IMHO.

[Tosh]

[Darren Hinch] That's Life!! [/Darren Hinch]

[B-Man]

[Darren Hinch] Shame , Shame , Shame [/Darren Hinch]

[benm]

I agree with what your saying B-Man 100% but at the end of the day this is Microsoft 1 of the largest companies in the world.

[Duncan]

yeah, no doubt that levels of issues in software would never be tolerated in other industries....

...but in this case, the vendor has supplied a fix for their problem before some l337 haxor created the worm, they've done their bit by making the fix available to all licensed owners for no charge.

[fatz]

all you nerds r hurting my brain

nerd up

pete

[haste]

I feel violated