Tarmac Rallying Perpetual Thread

[Targa Tom]

I'd really have to agree with TT and say that I don't really believe there's too much filthy cheating up the front of the field, as TT says everyone's paranoid about being checked, and as I said to someone when they questioned my front mount (without properly consulting the rules), if you cheat, you're really only cheating yourself. I must say though that the onus is on the entrant to ensure his car is legal, not the scrutineers. We can't expect scrutineers to be versed in every vehicle's specifications. That's what protests are for. Fortunately, one thing I do know there will be a crackdown on next year is Evo strokers, it's easy to check, and we know there's so many out there because it's cheaper to build a Crower stroker than rebuild to genuine spec! we followed a "showroom" Evo last year for alot of the event, well bugger me she was a good one! She'd turn all for tyres in second gear leaving the line! Our 360AWKW 34 GTR wouldn't do that! lol

And damo, as for the advent of tech in the Cat 7 year range, mate, take a look under Rex's car, she's basically a 996 GT3 under there, yes, it has ABS too... not alot of 1974 left in that baby And please don't think I'm taking anything away from Rex, he's a fabulous steerer, and as I said to him it was a real honour to even get close to him.

And Savman, I agree with you too, this will blow over in a week or two, and yes of course, if there's a budget, Timmy and I will be back until I can't get into a car.

Not too many evo's in Targa Showroom Last year. And most of them slow. I have it on good authourity that the owner of one has a stroker engine (58's at Symmons we could never do) but its not a showroom spec car... the boys where we dyno the car were talking of stokers, but I wouldnt believe everything you hear. I know the blue and yellow car that was in front of you in 08 (had to check prologue times - but you knew I would lol) and it was an E8, not in showroom class... but very good chance the engine was not within service limits.

Anyhow, Bloody hell they must be cheap... cost us $AUD1,780.22 in parts and 1500 in labour to freshen our engine (that was after 2500ks competitive in 16000 on the clock.). I got a shock, cos had put it off thinking it would be expensive.

US4k for a 2.3HKS stroker kit, US6k or the 2.2(race) kit without machining... that is AUD10k without labour, they wont run on std injectors / fuel pump combo - why would you bother.

Run em on the breadline and life the engine with Ralliart bits - much more ecconomical.

I know how to stop any cheating... a claiming rule.

ABS on the '74 RSReplicas?? Brakes are free still arent they?

I bet those with "strokers" are spewing... maybe their money would be better spent with Tim Shaw or John Bowe.

Maybe you have more to be concerned about Ben because of the diversification of brands and spec available in Classic (sorry early Modern). An importer of Nissans in the UK is not a manufacturer for instance.

Anyhow, busy trying to put a deal together to run Showroom with Octagon in a new car and RT in our old girl. Hope you get your budget regardless of rules...

BTW those couple of bottles of red you shipped with the shox must have got knocked off

TT

Edited August 1, 2009 by Targa Tom

[Marlin]

Yeah mate brakes are free, I was just saying there's a fair bit of modern tech in them

lol, the wine, hmmm, obviously you didn't receive the second carton in the consignment?

[Snowman]

Well the positive news is this has just saved me some $$$.

But then I was looking forwards to building a 1991 NSX for Targa especially after spending a few days in a Caterham R400. Big HP light RWD cars sure are a stack of fun to drive!

[Targa Tom]

Well the positive news is this has just saved me some $$$.

But then I was looking forwards to building a 1991 NSX for Targa especially after spending a few days in a Caterham R400. Big HP light RWD cars sure are a stack of fun to drive!

Good Choice.... trick looking handling sounding car. Yes, if I was to build an early modern - that would be on my list to check competitiveness... Previous race targa history too.... How about palmers thing with the Judd F1 engine!!!!

TT

[Targa Tom]

....lol, the wine, hmmm, obviously you didn't receive the second carton in the consignment?

Not sure really... TNT delivered 'em to LWR, now they are at PNMS getting a service. WIll collect 'em when I get home 24th or so.

Hey, thinking of throwing the dirt bikes in my ute for the WRC. What is the word on spectator access. Is it going to be Anal Aussie, or Mad European style of control.

TT

[Marlin]

Mate I have no idea what it'll be like. My club is throwing alot of man-power at the event, they run pretty tight ships. Flip up number plate cover would be the gun I reckon on a road reg enduro.....

I can't vouch for what happened down LWR... will chase it up. I hope they don't lose the collars etc that I had to mill up to fit the things!

[Targa Tom]

Mate I have no idea what it'll be like. My club is throwing alot of man-power at the event, they run pretty tight ships. Flip up number plate cover would be the gun I reckon on a road reg enduro.....

I can't vouch for what happened down LWR... will chase it up. I hope they don't lose the collars etc that I had to mill up to fit the things!

No need - All good. It was dropped there because Pete was in Japan with APRC. Will get across it when I get home. PNMS and LWR are about 600 mtrs apart and my old crew cheif is with LWR full time. SO Ney Bodder

TT

[Marlin]

Way cool car, but better you than me mate. I don't have pockets deep enough to repair an aluminium bodied supercar.

And anyway, RB20>any V-tec every day of the week lol

[Snowman]

Good Choice.... trick looking handling sounding car. Yes, if I was to build an early modern - that would be on my list to check competitiveness... Previous race targa history too.... How about palmers thing with the Judd F1 engine!!!!

TT

You know since the whole '91 thing in classic has been canned I might still look at the concept with one of the older NSX Type R's as an Early modern car rather than trying for a Classics one. I used to own an Aussie NSX before the R34 GT-R and have a real soft spot for them and those Type R's out of the box are an exceptional bit of kit. So even though the still fetch a pretty penny in Japan they really don't need a whole lot spent on them. By all accound the standard shocks and brakes are brilliant so it should just be a case of weight and safety.

After 5 years of big heavy AWD racing I just really like the idea of having a go the other-way for a change. Light RWD sounds like some fun and you just can't beat the V-Tech Yo.

[Kel]

Just read the latest Motorsport News- Steve Jones is back in a 35 for Targa West.

Notice I said 'a' 35 not 'the' (Targa crashed) 35.

I sensed just a little bit of spin in the story. Jones is quoted as saying the car was actual fixable, but that he had been planning to retire it after Tasmania, so it didn't set them back too much

Wish I lived in that little world of racing where you plan to retire a car after it's only done a handful of events!

[sav man]

i heard the car was absolutly rooted from multible people?!?!

[Kel]

i heard the car was absolutly rooted from multible people?!?!

Yeah, I'm certainly no expert on wrecks but I know a few people who are, who saw it up close and thought it was a definite write off. One comment was maybe worth $30K for the parts that didn't look too bent or broken.

[Snowman]

I can tell you all the Tassie car is now a recce car rather than a race car but it still lives. How that one has been arranged is a WHOLE other question which I didn't ask but there you have it.

The new car is a NEW car. FYI - they originally brought in 5 R35's when they were first released so it's not like they don't have one going spare. I spoke to Steve last week actually and he's pretty pumped for Tagra West. He says he learnt a hell of a lot from the first car (I'm sure especially in shocks and tyres/wheels - I'll be suprised if you see him on 19's again!) and he also has the tuning software from Cobb rather than just the base tunes Cobb supplied (my little tinkering alone has shown how much extra can be gained over the base cars with that software). So expect him to do rather well again I'd say.

[Marlin]

Good on him for bouncing back so quickly. Tassie roads he will have learned are a bunch different from the point/squirt billiard table that is Targa West.

I saw the Targa wreck, hmmmm, repaired you say? where's the chassis VIN on a 35? lol

[Snowman]

You mean good on Kim Ledger.....

[Marlin]

Ok well good on Kim, he really is one of the nicest people you could hope to meet.

[Snowman]

Well I just faxed through my 2010 TWP entry form. Fingers crossed I make it into the field since it looks like I may have left things a bit late!

Other than Dutton/ATC W.A. in Oct I didn't really have anything else planned between now and TT10 so I needed to give myself something to look forwards too. And I watched my all too breif footage from TWP last year last night which still makes me laugh (James with his "Farking AIRBORNE.... hehehe.... Jesus Christ!") so I figured I better go back and try again.

[Snowman]

Quinn and Jones are killing it over in Perth. Has been a good up and down battle between the 2 of them so far this weekend.

[bnr#@]

Was up there today having a looksie and taking a whole lot of pix and vid, the R35's look awesome, dominating everyone to...

Got completley drenched though, rained all day

[Duncan]

Yep Steve Jones is looking good for this one.....45sec up. And really its only between Jones/Quinn/Herridge at this point.

1 73 Nissan GTR 35 Steven Jones 1:01:16.0 0

2 90 Nissan GTR 35 Tony Quinn 1:01:32.0 +45.0

3 65 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Dean Herridge 1:02:13.0 +57.0

4 37 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 RS Dylan Thomas 1:03:26.0 +2:09.0

5 91 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6 RS Peter Major 1:03:32.0 +2:15.0