Tarmac Rallying Perpetual Thread

[Snowman]

I can only guess its because they already had one. That EMO has been around for years - Steve used to race it in the Dutton series and all of the W.A. speed series stuff.

[Marlin]

Understood, but hey, if you're spending 250, its not much of a step to 300.

[sav man]

Has it been approved yet? Somone should bring a mines time attack R34 over.

[Marlin]

How about an RGM Motorsport R34 GTR?

[skylinegtts]

Confuses me why they wouldn't base it on the Ten (X).

By most accounts, the X is a better "thing".

ben thats interesting,

a few opinions that ive heard from evo owners is that the VIII/IX is the better "thing". not that i know anything about them, just out of curiousity, on what accounts do you think the X is better?

[Marlin]

Well, talking to Steve Glenney at the Emo Nats over the weekend, we raised the same point.

I indicated that I would buy a nine, he said I was mad and the ten is twice the car, it's just not publically known yet.

The ten he ran in improved Proddy was over a second a lap quicker than the much more modified nine on the same day, same rubber.

He went on to list better torque, larger power "band", much wider track, minimal weight increase.... in his words, "the list goes on, and don't tell anyone".

lol

[Snowman]

Rod Salmon says the same thing. Before his now infamous crash he told me his Showroom spec X was a full 1s / lap faster than his previous M2 Modern EVO 9 at Broadford - which is just a little track. But he has gone on to prove it's worth at the Bathurst 12hr for a number of years now.

[skylinegtts]

ahhh fair enough,

i think it probably has a lot to do with aftermarket tunability available atm for the X. from the guys i have talked to that seemed to be the general concensus that there wasnt a whole heaps of easy options to make it go faster.

that didnt happen to be you in the black r34 gtr on saturday afternoon did it ben? i dropped by for a quick look probably around the last session of the afternoon and saw a black R34 gtr leaving around the time of the photos.

[Marlin]

Yep, 'twas me mate.

The Emo drivers asked me to leave, their pretend cars were getting scared

[djr81]

I can only guess its because they already had one. That EMO has been around for years - Steve used to race it in the Dutton series and all of the W.A. speed series stuff.

He did the Busso round of the Speed Event Series in it and belted everyone.

[Beer Baron]

Well, talking to Steve Glenney at the Emo Nats over the weekend, we raised the same point.

I indicated that I would buy a nine, he said I was mad and the ten is twice the car, it's just not publically known yet.

The ten he ran in improved Proddy was over a second a lap quicker than the much more modified nine on the same day, same rubber.

He went on to list better torque, larger power "band", much wider track, minimal weight increase.... in his words, "the list goes on, and don't tell anyone".

lol

yep I thought the 8/9 was the pick too but I have heard from the smart people that the X is miles ahead. makes sense to me. glenney would know too he has driven enough emo to know which is the better base car.

they are stupid quick with just basic mods.

[blackrex]

I saw Snowy's new beast today, the cage is looking really good.

[Snowman]

Sad days. I said good-bye to my 5 speed today.

I was going to keep it as a momento but the funds help with the new toy.

[Kel]

Just had a read through the High Country regs

Looks like the end of the road for some of the Specials

Farewell also to that *interesting* derived time rule (thank fark!)

[Duncan]

I heard on the grape vine today that a Western Australian father of a former Joker is planning on building a number of homologated super EMO's with stroked engines, carbon fibre everything and sequential gearboxes to run at Targa 2011 with his #1 driver moving from the R35 to the new car.

Apparently you can have one for a cool $250K (or less if you provide your own "donar" car).

I really need to get onto this Racepace GT-R concept before this window gets closed!

hahah spoke to soon. and the raceworx rb34dettrr gtr is out the window as well. thank god!

good to see e85 is no longer restricted to 1 supplier (anyone's is fine, hello 92c/l race fuel!)

sadly the corner cutting rule still talks about "predetermined" corners only.

good work....tighten them even more next time to keep the cost down!

still a PITA for me because the CAMS production car rules and aasa tarmac rally rules keep moving further apart.

[sav man]

where are the new supp regs?

[Duncan]

luckyu for you rb26 heads still seem to be legal onr b20s

THC_2010_Supplementary_Regulations_110910.pdf

[Snowman]

The 2 big ones for us are 3.5" exhausts and upper control arms are now ok.

It's hard to fully understand the special vehicles rules. Does it mean Whtey will have to undo his 200K upgrade and go back to a manual gearbox? The type R was just as fictional as the Super Alphabet.

I'm pretty sure the ATTK'D GTR is cactus - but not sure where the 400R/Z Tune stands under the regs.

Are the Skelta's road registerable in Oz to pass the local 10 car rule? But we can def see the rule to permit the RX8SP - which I'm ok with as Mazda do help support the events.

Oh - and I love the changes to the Showroom Class. I can see it really taking off now that 4WD cars are out and the limit raised to $100K .

Madza 3 v MX5 v 370Z v XR6T x HSV GTS v BMW 135i v Audi TT v Lotus Elise v VW GTI. I'm sure there is more decent options.

Sounds a lot more interesting than EVO v EVO v EVO v EVO......

[sav man]

I think YT's super alfabet is more legit than the type-r, cause if you type in into google you get heaps of info on them, type r is just a Aus paper model.

I don't see why the Z-Tune and 400R would be out, I thought there would have been enough of them made.

Nissan need to put a factory team together to take on the mazdabaters in showroom.

[Snowman]

Well these are the rules right. So this is why I'm not sure how the 400R/Z Tune fits.

• An Australian based manufacturer who produces a minimum of ten identical vehicles sold and fully registered in Australia.

Def not in this one.

• A multi-national manufacturer who produces a minimum of 200 identical vehicles sold and fully registered worldwide.

They didn't make 200x 400R's, and they only made 20x Z Tunes - but then they didn't make 200 N1's either. But is it ok if they make 200+ R33's and R34's? The other question here is IS NISMO considered to be Nissan?

• A manufacturer who produces and sells a minimum of 10,000 cars worldwide in a given year can apply to enter a promotional/concept model

provided three identical vehicles are manufactured.

Possibly ok under these rules but would Nissan/Nismo need to be the entrant rather than say me?

The following vehicle types will not be granted entry:

• Vehicles made by one manufacturer and then modified and re-tuned and released as a derivative of the original car under another name are not

permitted.

Technically isn't this what the 400R / Z-Tune are?