Tarmac Rallying Perpetual Thread

[Marlin]

Hmmm, but but but Mark, 2010 was a bit of an anomally, being, with all due respect, a bit of a Steven Bradbury winner. All the much quicker front guys fell off or broke on the last day.

The last complete results I have is 2009.

Steve Glenney was 10th Outright in the RX8 SP.

I was 17th Outright, a mere 1:29 behind. The guy who won my class (Classic Outright) ended up 7th Outright.

[Marlin]

I agree with everything above, a good recce and car prep will give a better result than a Million dollar car driven at 80%. There is so much time to be gained on the fast section with accurate notes and a commited driver!

Having said that, the time you lose on day 1 of Targa is no different to the time you lose on day 5, and this is where the balance of speed vs reliability comes in I guess?

Our 32 GTR at THC was certainly no "Big Budget" build, and Melinda did quite well for the cars first event and her first time in a skyline (and her first event in 2yrs). Our current tune is only 260rwkw, but she can drive it alot faster yet before she needs more power.

On another note, how did everyones tyre wear go? We ran Dunlop DZ03 mediums, and they were totally shot after Big River reverse (Eildon?) on Sunday, with Mel losing heaps of time thinking a tyre was delaminating. Maybe Medium/hards for TT11?

Cheers

paul

Big Paul,

Glad the wife went well mate

In years past GTR's have really needed to run Hards to get through, but I have a feeling that your wife's deft touch, under 300AWKW, a day of precipitation, and the ability to add two new tyres end of day four, that Dunlop SR (medium hard) will see her through.

[sav man]

From memory Snowie was 8mins up and dad, and Gavin was 4mins up on snowie. So the eventual winner was 12 mins down on the real pace setter.

[PHaT MR30]

The big thing for me is you can't gain time only lose it, so you need to be in the hunt all the time.. I think the old days of take it easy for the first few days and see where you are on sunday doesn't apply anymore.

If you stick in the top 5 of your competition all the way and pounce on the stages you know you can make time up on. That will slingshot you up the order.

Also you need to remember, while the results from last year and the past can give an idea of where you can run, remember there are guys like David Ayre's, Snowy and now Newton that need to be slotted in the mix and I dare say that, that could be the potential podium for EM next year (not neccissarily in that order).

[Snowman]

Blaise will be better for a first up run (look at his times from after lunch on Day 1 at THC) and with him fine tuning again in TWP he'll be up there at the pointy end.

EM will be seriously competitive for TT11. I reckon I will struggle for a top 5 let alone a podium. But for now I will settle with just being allowed to officially finish.

For what its worth I ran the A050's at TT this year which are an M and there was still heaps of tread left on them at the end (and I never put any fresh ones on). Mind you it was never really 100% dry for the whole 6 days. But I know Jeff ran a set in 2009 where the weather was much kinder ok as well. That being said my set was completely shagged after THC but I think everyones tyres across the board were like that. I will still run the yoki's again for TT11 even though its a few weeks earlier in the year.

But if I wasn't running the A050's I'd run the Dunlop R's (M/H).

[sav man]

Tyres will be a hard choice next year. Running eariler, and not being able to change tyres for free (at this stage), I don't think the Dunlop M's will last for my car.

From memory the 050 M is the same as the 03G R, and the 050 S is the same as the 03G M

[Snowman]

Yeah the A050 "M" is more like a M/H for sure - or even a H. One of the guys here has just done his 8th track day on a single set I think and runs full sessions everytime out. They definitely wear well.

And the fact they only come in Medium, Soft and Super Soft to me really says they come in Hard, Medium and Soft but they just want to sound more hardcore. LOL

[Marlin]

Yeah the A050 "M" is more like a M/H for sure - or even a H. One of the guys here has just done his 8th track day on a single set I think and runs full sessions everytime out. They definitely wear well.

And the fact they only come in Medium, Soft and Super Soft to me really says they come in Hard, Medium and Soft but they just want to sound more hardcore. LOL

^^^ What he says.

[Marlin]

My car is up for sale if anyone is interested.

http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/...34/Default.aspx

Please explain?

Didn't you enjoy yourself?

Should I buy it back?

[BLUEGTR]

Please explain?

Didn't you enjoy yourself?

Should I buy it back?

Yeah really enjoyed it and it seems to be a good thing now as we seemed to be on the pace until the clutch problems. Just want to recope some money as I have spent a fortune on it lately. Not in a hurry to sell so if I still have it when TWP and TT comes around I'l still run. Yeah I think you should by it back lol

[Marlin]

I'd like it back! It's a great car.... but alas, I have no room, need to move a 34 R to make space......... **cough**

[No Crust Racing]

Marlin didn't I offer you my Silvia and slab for the 34

Edited November 17, 2010 by ActionDan

[Marlin]

Yes yes you did Dan, ummmmmm....... LOOK!!!!! PUPPIES!!!!!

[No Crust Racing]

Aww

[Targa Tom]

Just a quick one on tyres... M's at Rally Tas - hopeless. Buggered by Savage River. M's in TT all the way through.

And for those who want to run up front - its a 5 day sprint. Easier to coast when everyone has fall off chasing and you are on shot tyres than make up the time you lost on Wednesday conserving rubber.

One day of rain - m's get through

TT

[Marlin]

Ahhhh a voice of reason

Glad you piped up I was feeling a little weighed down by some of these upstarts lol

I've decided I really wanna head back Greg.....

[Targa Tom]

Yeah the A050 "M" is more like a M/H for sure - or even a H. One of the guys here has just done his 8th track day on a single set I think and runs full sessions everytime out. They definitely wear well.

And the fact they only come in Medium, Soft and Super Soft to me really says they come in Hard, Medium and Soft but they just want to sound more hardcore. LOL

In 08 we ran Yoki M's I imported from the states. (not 050, but their forerunner). Hope the new ones are better - cos was 5 sec slower on Paradise in the dry than we were D03's [07 intermediate stage wet all the way from the bridge to top of hill)

Tyres are always an issue - and when managed the right tyre a huge advantage

TT

[PHaT MR30]

Like running the same tyres that were used at TT for THC... = Slow

[Darkside]

In 08 we ran Yoki M's I imported from the states. (not 050, but their forerunner). Hope the new ones are better - cos was 5 sec slower on Paradise in the dry than we were D03's [07 intermediate stage wet all the way from the bridge to top of hill)

Tyres are always an issue - and when managed the right tyre a huge advantage

TT

If they were he A048 yokies, they were rubbish cmpared to the RE55 and Dunlop at the time from my observations. Dunlop always seemed to be the tyre of choice. Although the new 050 seems to have bridged the gap and is a fast tyre and seems, from what Snowy has said, to be able to go the distance, especially if you get the odd wet day. I will be punting on a set of M yokies getting me through at leats 4 days.

[Marlin]

Like running the same tyres that were used at TT for THC... = Slow

Remember Timmy...... if you're serious, cut down the road, not across the track

FYI, I woulda run a fresh set of rubber