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Incase there are any engineers or experienced modifiers here.

I own a pretty stock R32 GTST Type M. FMIC, Fuel pump, exhaust, filter. I have a Garret 500HP turbo waiting at home, a power FC & injectors to be purchased soon. when I put this all on and get it tuned, then question is. CAN I GET IT ENGINEERED?

any help would be great guys. I am in the sydney area. I just want to be able to drive it without hassles if I get pulled over. or be able to fight any defects or fines if it happens. its an everyday driver. :)

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I think the simple answer is no. Going from the WA laws, which I know may be different, any mods which have an impact on the engines function would require it to pass not only structural test, but more importantly EPA tests.

The EPA test here involves a rolling test on a special dyno, to make sure the emmisions still meet with the orignal car specs. It costs about $2000 here at the moment for this test:(

Contact an engineering signatory and ask them. They will be able to tell you what can and can't be done legally. VSI 02 contains the list of signatories.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/dow...cinfor_dl1.html

Also an excerpt from VSI 06

Engine modification

Original engine modified

Modifications to the original engine are permitted provided the following conditions are met:

*normal engine reconditioning within manufacturer’s limits is permitted; .

*modifications must not affect compliance with any emission or noise related ADRs;  

*all emission control equipment must be retained and functional;  

*if the modifications result in a substantial increase in power, then the adequacy of other components to carry the increased power (brake performance, vehicle controllability and suspension systems etc.) as well as the vehicle’s continued compliance with the applicable ADRs must be considered.

Please post whatever you find out.

Yeah, we spoke to the head of the pit inspections of here, and he basically said, if we can't see it then we aren't going to worry about it:D Just don't put huge lumpy cams in, cause that's kinda obvious:D I have an aftermarket ECU, but it's hidden behind the kick panel.

No. You can't.

Theres no way you can actually get a car engineered with a programmable ECU, you can get it passed via the test, but still what stops you changing the settings after you have passed.

Its a risk if you run a aftermarket ECU/Boost controller/Aftermarket turbos etc etc etc......

I dont think that there is anything stopping you from getting programmable management engineered! My mate had his sprinter engineered running a CA18DET with microtech computer!! just had to have emissions test etc before it would be passed!! Even with an engineers cert nsw police and rta reserve the right to have it tested again at anystage!!

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No. You can't.

Theres no way you can actually get a car engineered with a programmable ECU, you can get it passed via the test, but still what stops you changing the settings after you have passed.

Its a risk if you run a aftermarket ECU/Boost controller/Aftermarket turbos etc etc etc......

Incorrect.

If the ECU is password protected from any change in settings (settings that only get programmed by an authorised tuner) then it can be engineered.

A good example of this is Haltech.

Incorrect.

If the ECU is password protected from any change in settings (settings that only get programmed by an authorised tuner) then it can be engineered.

A good example of this is Haltech.

And Power FC

Cheers

Gary

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