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hey people, I have just recently graduated from TAFE, just completed a Cert 4 In networking and stage 1 and 2 CCNA ..... I am planning to look for work and put my studying aside for now, Been trying to get into a entry level job and its so hard... applied for many jobs on seek and other websites.. lol never got any calls due to that i have no experience ..

So i am hoping any1 on here can get me a job.. once i'm in, will give u $200

easy money... thats 2 weeks of free fuel LOL...

Help a brother out haha

THanks

Welcome to the wonderful world of IT. My best advice to you is get out while you can cause its not worth it. Do something else while you still can lol. Ok if that did not change your mind then i suggest you go around to some IT Recuritement agency and talk to them they will want your resume sent via email and follow up and tell them you will pay them $200 if they can find you a IT job haha. I am sure it will work out soon or later but keep following up with them.

When you do get a job most likely it will be on a contract basis work your ass off so you get a good reference its all worth more than your studies alone.

...if i had of know this when i got in IT I would have spent an extra yr at uni doing a engineering major and be happy right now.

good luck.

If you say that you did not get any calls, then how do you know that is because you have no experience?

If you are not able to get past the 1st step ie. getting a phone call and an interview, I would suggest that you have a good look at your resume and interview skills. I have seen plenty of friends resumes that have been rubbish. after some improvement, all of sudden they were getting calls for interviews.

Use your family, friends and anyone more experienced to help you with the resume and importantly your cover letter.

Some more advise I can give is that those CCNA courses are a big waste of time, ie. CCNA 1-4. If you are serious about learning the material then study it on your own and pass the external certification exam. Doing the 1-4 courses through TAFE or uni are not really worth much unless you have passed the external exam and actually earn the certification.

Welcome to the wonderful world of IT. My best advice to you is get out while you can cause its not worth it. Do something else while you still can lol. Ok if that did not change your mind then i suggest you go around to some IT Recuritement agency and talk to them they will want your resume sent via email and follow up and tell them you will pay them $200 if they can find you a IT job haha. I am sure it will work out soon or later but keep following up with them.

When you do get a job most likely it will be on a contract basis work your ass off so you get a good reference its all worth more than your studies alone.

...if i had of know this when i got in IT I would have spent an extra yr at uni doing a engineering major and be happy right now.

good luck.

ahahhaha you're so cynically like myself...... I'm a BA and I hate my job, and I hate IT.. I wish I did something more exciting like engineering....

Like Bonsai said, get out of IT, it's shiet and too competitive with foreigners, the ones that drive taxis...

Want experience? go do an Internship, mega shit pay... but experience pays off.

I started my first IT job on help desk, that progressed to setting up bullshiet networks for neighbours and friends, got an ABN starting ghosting, building small servers for photo labs, provided network support, Invoiced people, then I got a contract with Defence doing QA work, from there I moved onto a BA role..

yeah... I had to climb the ladder.

nah i got replies back sayin they had more better candidates with revelent experiences ..etc and i get replies bak from email that i do not meet there criteria...liek i got revelent knowledge but lack experience to meet their clients

I own an IT company (in QLD) and can tell you that unfortunately not a lot of personalisation normally goes into the repplies for unsuccessful candidates. It's not great, but imagine how much it would cost to send a personalised reply to 100 unsuccessful applicants that listed the ACTUAL reasons they didn't get the job. It would add thousands to the cost of hiring someone.

So I second the idea that you review the resume and make sure it is good. Employers want experience sure, but with the price of wages these days, someone cheaper who has a very good work ethic, solid foundations and the ability to learn quickly; this can present a compelling case.

But in any case, if you go for a level 1 Help Desk position (big companies are always looking for people coz turnover is fairly high) and stick that out for at least a year (AT LEAST A YEAR - I'll repeat that for the Gen-Ys amongst us :blink: ),then you'll have some experience for a better / more interesting job.

Then if you want decent money in a few years, go study hard and get some big end Cisco quals and get experienced on a range of security appliances and theory.

AFTER you've reviewed your resume, send it to me, ill have a look and forward on to a couple of my mates that are IT recruiters. They will then be able to either help you or give you some real feedback.

I own an IT company (in QLD) and can tell you that unfortunately not a lot of personalisation normally goes into the repplies for unsuccessful candidates. It's not great, but imagine how much it would cost to send a personalised reply to 100 unsuccessful applicants that listed the ACTUAL reasons they didn't get the job. It would add thousands to the cost of hiring someone.

So I second the idea that you review the resume and make sure it is good. Employers want experience sure, but with the price of wages these days, someone cheaper who has a very good work ethic, solid foundations and the ability to learn quickly; this can present a compelling case.

But in any case, if you go for a level 1 Help Desk position (big companies are always looking for people coz turnover is fairly high) and stick that out for at least a year (AT LEAST A YEAR - I'll repeat that for the Gen-Ys amongst us :blink: ),then you'll have some experience for a better / more interesting job.

Then if you want decent money in a few years, go study hard and get some big end Cisco quals and get experienced on a range of security appliances and theory.

Finally, a worthwhile response in this thread.

Mate I would also look at one other section of a job aplication.

The cover letter.

this is basically your chance to sell yourself.

you are one of Many graduates who are looking for the same job.

you have to stand out.

a cover letter saying..

Dear Mr X.

my name is johnny and I'm looking for a job in IT.

I done a tafe diploma in technology Y and think that this job is something I might be able to do.

IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

The FORMAT of your CV is also very important.

and at this stage in your career, it is probably more important than the text you have on it as you have no experience.

When applying for jobs, they don't make it obvious, but you know the "CRITERIA" section they have... well they are the "questions" you have to answer.

Your job application should have a section where you show past experiences/situations where you've proven you have "those" criteria.

1.) Cover letter

2.) Selection criteria responses

3.) CV

Apparently they have the internet on computers now so you could probably search for information on how to lay out your CV or how to respond to the criteria requirements.

Remember to sell yourself.

Your personality needs to come out in your application.

Since you've got no relevant experience in IT, your other aspects like how you get on with others etc needs to be your selling point, so that a company will spend the time/money on paying and training you.

I'm a BA and I hate my job, and I hate IT.. I wish I did something more exciting like engineering....

Heh i'm the opposite - did a mech eng degree and as soon as i graduated i went into IT (at the bottom of course). The industrial experience work i did for mech eng was boring as batshit - using the australian standard to join the dots design pressure vessels.... GTFO. I love IT!

For the OP - i dunno what that "stage 1 and 2" CCNA stuff is, but if its the Cisco certified network associate, just run up a copy of dynamips, study the shit out of it and go for the cert. There's plenty of study guides about. Its an easy cert. You're probably going to start at helldesk, so a Microsoft cert might help as well.

Stage 1 and 2 means nothing without you taking the actual exam and pass it.

I've gone through all 4 stages of ccna and did my exam and passed. Do it while its still fresh in your mind I would say. The longer you wait, the less motivated you are.

Start off small, 36k - 40k helpdesk role are relatively easy to get, but if you can land one in a big company, it'll be a plus. You'd be amazed how much skill you'll actually pick up by just doing helpdesk stuff. Then in your spare time, get as many IT certs as possible and apply for a nother role either within the same company or a different company. You'll most defitnitly get a healthy pay rise from doing that. I'm speaking from my personal experience.

Btw, half the time you are not getting a response from recruiter is because of your resume, the other half is because you do not fit the technical profile.. Make it as professional as you can and you MUST have a cover letter for every resume you send.

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