Why Has Your Warn Rate Gone Up For No Reason?

[SysLink67]

Warnings are a permanent level. Moderators use them to monitor your previous behaviour.

Ive copped 2 warnings for exactly that...but the person/workshop in question is still throwing mud at me and our business...go figure?

I never thought an enthusiast forum would be subject to so much hypocrisy. I really enjoy this forum for its freedom in information and advise it offers.

Also its a great platform for people with a common passion for skylines too come together.

I understand that a forum like this has costs and so forth to keep it up and running but when a workshop does wrong by the members that subscribe to that same forum and then are told to keep their mouth shut or their posts are completely edited to make out they are the ones in wrong, I believe thats fundamentally against the very nature of the forum in the first place.

Its not freedom of speech... its against the core objective of having a forum in the first place.

[Blitz]

just wondering, what are the reasons that warnings are issued? is just things like bad language, or is there anything else?

Pretty simple, failing to follow the forums rules.

We run a fairly relaxed ship here on SAU, so be respectful to other members and observe the rules and you won't have any problems. If you do slip up and cop a warning, be a man and take it on the chin, because thats all it is, a warning

[Blitz]

Ive copped 2 warnings for exactly that...but the person/workshop in question is still throwing mud at me and our business...go figure?

Paul, if the person in question 'throws mud at you' on the forum, report it to moderators, and they will be pulled up for it just like any other member.

[SysLink67]

Pretty simple, failing to follow the forums rules.

We run a fairly relaxed ship here on SAU, so be respectful to other members and observe the rules and you won't have any problems. If you do slip up and cop a warning, be a man and take it on the chin, because thats all it is, a warning

If I stand corrected I will be the first ( as should anyone ) to take responsibility for my actions. But if its clear cut someones in the wrong and the only reason to cop warning is becuase you spoke the truth, I think that treatment has got nothing to do with being a man at all...

Infact I think its a cowardly act, and along the lines of someone having a " God Complex ".

Taking it out on those with Machiavellian approach is representative of those with a poor character.

[Blitz]

If I stand corrected I will be the first ( as should anyone ) to take responsibility for my actions. But if its clear cut someones in the wrong and the only reason to cop warning is becuase you spoke the truth, I think that treatment has got nothing to do with being a man at all...

Infact I think its a cowardly act, and along the lines of someone having a " God Complex ".

Taking it out on those with Machiavellian approach is representative of those with a poor character.

Your missing the point, mate.

The rules regarding the posting of defamitory and potentially slanderous comments against businesses, are very very clear, and have been around for a long long time. By using this forum you agree to abide by the rules that Prank, as the forum owner, has set out. They are the rules, end of story. While in theory yes we should all be able to post 'truthful' comments, the fact is this is the internet, and nobody really has any way of knowing just how truthful, or otherwise, a comment may be. Sadly there is almost always more to the story when something is posted, and the real facts have a habit of being exaggerated or embellished.

At the end of the day, Prank is liable for any comment resulting in legal threats/action against SAU, and as such the above rule is in place to protect both Prank, and the forum as a whole.

If you choose to ignore the rules, and you are issued with a warning, there is only one person to blame, and its yourself.

[R31Nismoid]

What legal costs?

You could only be sued for deformation..... if the person who denies the accusations can prove its untrue which the onus is on them to do so.....

Dan should be pretty familiar with the Oscar wilde case I'm sure.

erm what?

You still have to get representation to fight it. Regardless of who is right/wrong and so on.

Time is money, and time is something not everyone has to thrown around.

If you dont like the rules, then dont use the board. Pretty simple.

Its pretty easy going here compared to a lot of other places, we dont ask much, just that which we do ask... we need it followed

[SysLink67]

erm what?

You still have to get representation to fight it. Regardless of who is right/wrong and so on.

Time is money, and time is something not everyone has to thrown around.

If you dont like the rules, then dont use the board. Pretty simple.

Its pretty easy going here compared to a lot of other places, we dont ask much, just that which we do ask... we need it followed

I know its pretty simple, I do follow the rules but I also have an opinion. I also understand simple concepts of life which include time.

I never said or implied I don't like the rules mate.... I have simply stated It shit forum members can't speak the truth when stating the truth will save others from make the same mistake. I don't think you get the point from that side of the fence and its getting boring trying make the point especially when its redundant from from the start. I get the fact that on a forum its hard to determine the chaff from the wheat.

Anyways...... I have said what I have wanted too, without amazingly enough anything being edited...

[dan_the_man]

I know its pretty simple, I do follow the rules but I also have an opinion. I also understand simple concepts of life which include time.

I never said or implied I don't like the rules mate.... I have simply stated It shit forum members can't speak the truth when stating the truth will save others from make the same mistake. I don't think you get the point from that side of the fence and its getting boring trying make the point especially when its redundant from from the start. I get the fact that on a forum its hard to determine the chaff from the wheat.

Anyways...... I have said what I have wanted too, without amazingly enough anything being edited...

If you feel the need to spread your word, about your previous experiences with a business, then use the private message feature.

That way it is between you and the user. Not for public viewing.

It is as simple as that

You could only be sued for deformation.....

ps wtf is deformation?

SAU is Chernobyl now?

[R31Nismoid]

Why would it be edited?

This isnt NS.com or otherwise, your free to speak your mind within the guidelines.

I know what your saying, but keeping the forum working, here and alive is the main aim

[SysLink67]

If you feel the need to spead your word, about your previous experiences with a business, then use the private message feature.

That way it is between you and the user. Not for public viewing.

It is as simple as that

ps wtf is deformation?

SAU is Chernobyl now?

Well besides the spelling error I would have thought the reference to case law would have given you a hint, given your back ground. But I expect you to come back gripping onto a spelling mistake as poor excuse for a rebuttle.

You are an deff ASSet dan.

[dan_the_man]

Well besides the spelling error I would have thought the reference to case law would have given you a hint, given your back ground. But I expect you to come back gripping onto a spelling mistake as poor excuse for a rebuttle.

You are an deff ASSet dan.

lol the rebuttle was already written before the little joke

I was hoping you'd see the humour in it. for shame!

nevermind.

So was there anything else mate?

[PranK]

Anyways...... I have said what I have wanted too, without amazingly enough anything being edited...

I was actually enjoying somebody getting worked up about something on here, like giving a shit about the way things are done, but this last line of yours just makes me shake my head... If there is an account of a serious post that has been edited (besides rule breaking posts like chatting in fs, posting porn, etc) let me know because that goes against everything we want in these forums.

Freedom of speech is my number 1 priority in almost everything I do. I, believe it or not, am a hippy at heart, member of Greenpeace, Sea Shepherd, Free Tibet, Amnesty and a lot of others. I am all for freedom of speech, dont for one second misinterperet that by having rules that protect me and my family from legal action are there for any other reason.

I am fairly sure that I am safe from legal action from businesses (step mother is a solicitor, dad is a barister, uncle is a solicitor, sister is a barister + shit loads of legal-minded family friends) but when it comes down to it, the internet and its legal grounds are still new and there are laws being changed every day to deal with them. Until I am absolutely positive about where I stand, the rules stay in place, because as much as I love you guys, I wont pick you when it comes to the crunch.

Its crazy to think that we (I say we because although I am ultimately responsible, this forum belongs to everbody) cant say whats on our minds, but unfortunately (and at least for now), thats the way it has to be.

[SysLink67]

lol the rebuttle was already written before the little joke

I was hoping you'd see the humour in it. for shame!

nevermind.

So was there anything else mate?

large shit sandwich with a side order of crap

[dan_the_man]

large shit sandwich with a side order of crap

charming.

If you have any other issues mate, dont hesitate to pm one of us

[Swiper the Fox]

I was just a bit put off when a certain 'mod' on here was very hasty to pull me into line after i got sick and tired of being prodded by a certain workshop owner with a little help from the mod as well. I give a detailed description of how this character has treated myself and others through our unfortunate dealings with him, and im warned...ok fair enough...i crossed the line as far as the forum rules go...ok...but this character continues to badger me and CLEARLY makes unsubstanciated and false allegations about my business and workmanship and continues to do so. Even after i twice make an effort to apoligise and move on. There seems to be the favorites on here....bit of a double standard really....just be consistent guys.

[dan_the_man]

I was just a bit put off when a certain 'mod' on here was very hasty to pull me into line after i got sick and tired of being prodded by a certain workshop owner with a little help from the mod as well. I give a detailed description of how this character has treated myself and others through our unfortunate dealings with him, and im warned...ok fair enough...i crossed the line as far as the forum rules go...ok...but this character continues to badger me and CLEARLY makes unsubstanciated and false allegations about my business and workmanship and continues to do so. Even after i twice make an effort to apoligise and move on. There seems to be the favorites on here....bit of a double standard really....just be consistent guys.

We cannot play favourites over anyone. Everyone gets the hefty warn level increase.

May I ask if you used the report post button for the offending posters comments?

[SysLink67]

charming.

If you have any other issues mate, dont hesitate to pm one of us

I thought my last response was suited to your style.

Will do Dannyo.

Thanks for constructive input and your usual open mindedness.

[PranK]

I was just a bit put off when a certain 'mod' on here was very hasty to pull me into line after i got sick and tired of being prodded by a certain workshop owner with a little help from the mod as well. I give a detailed description of how this character has treated myself and others through our unfortunate dealings with him, and im warned...ok fair enough...i crossed the line as far as the forum rules go...ok...but this character continues to badger me and CLEARLY makes unsubstanciated and false allegations about my business and workmanship and continues to do so. Even after i twice make an effort to apoligise and move on. There seems to be the favorites on here....bit of a double standard really....just be consistent guys.

In all seriousness, if somebody makes a complaint about a moderator or admin, it should be treated the same way as anything else. I personally have removed mods because of certain actions. There is absolutely no favoritism from myself and shouldn't be from anyone else. If you are getting hammered by somebody, let me (or any of the admins) know because I can promise you it will be treated fairly.

Christian

[SysLink67]

In all seriousness, if somebody makes a complaint about a moderator or admin, it should be treated the same way as anything else. I personally have removed mods because of certain actions. There is absolutely no favoritism from myself and shouldn't be from anyone else. If you are getting hammered by somebody, let me (or any of the admins) know because I can promise you it will be treated fairly.

Christian

If thats the way it works I have the utmost respect for the forum and will support it anyway I can ( fiscally or with time )

I seriously think " some mods " deff go on an ego trip with their power and abuse their position.

[PranK]

If thats the way it works I have the utmost respect for the forum and will support it anyway I can ( fiscally or with time )

I seriously think " some mods " deff go on an ego trip with their power and abuse their position.

Cool, then we need those mods to be reported so they can be pulled aside. I dont want anybody thinking that because they're a mod they'll be treated differently.