The Pope Is Here.

[adgey]

Money might not be important to you but to the rest of us who use electricity, water, roads, parks, schools, shopping centres and hospitals which is what that money goes to to maintain it's everything!

[-FIGJAM-]

Because i see what good this can actually do for the world community. Is it right that the government has paid for all of it? no, i agree, but is it right that the government paid for the Olympics? no it isnt. Think about the world at the moment and people's attitude towards each other, now you have thousands of people from all over the world together for the one thing, is that not a good thing?

people take leave for no reason all the time, one could see this as a time to take leave for a reason, but i guess that would depend on your point of view.

I dont mean to insult you Beer, but i do get the shits when people jump up and down about WYD, because its just another form of Catholic bashing, which has been happening for centuries. I also get sick of hearing about what a crock it is and how badly done by we are because of it, the government gave the ok for a reason.

You know what, i would like to see the money spent on schools or hospitals, or even buying back Telstra and other buisnesses that can help. Fact of the matter is its here, so mose well accept it and stop winging about it.

[Abo Bob]

It's not Catholic bashing - we hate plenty of the major religions. I was going to say all but I don't mind those little bald Buddhists.

[FATAZZ]

Because i see what good this can actually do for the world community. Is it right that the government has paid for all of it? no, i agree, but is it right that the government paid for the Olympics? no it isnt. Think about the world at the moment and people's attitude towards each other, now you have thousands of people from all over the world together for the one thing, is that not a good thing?

people take leave for no reason all the time, one could see this as a time to take leave for a reason, but i guess that would depend on your point of view.

Umm and the Olympics don't bring everyone together???

All your doing there is choosing between Religion & sport and your saying Religion is more important to you. Well thats your opinion which your entitled to.

I dont mean to insult you Beer, but i do get the shits when people jump up and down about WYD, because its just another form of Catholic bashing, which has been happening for centuries. I also get sick of hearing about what a crock it is and how badly done by we are because of it, the government gave the ok for a reason.

You know what, i would like to see the money spent on schools or hospitals, or even buying back Telstra and other buisnesses that can help. Fact of the matter is its here, so mose well accept it and stop winging about it.

How bout the victims of rape/abuse through the Catholic church first?

[-FIGJAM-]

im not putting religion over sport. I agree the Olympics did bring people together. My point is i dont want to pay for the Olympics, i dont want to pay for State of Origin, and yea alright i dont want to pay for WYD, but we have, thats the fact of the matter and im sick of hearing about it.

Im sick of people complaining about the catholic pilgrims because that is Catholic bashing. Saying what a pain in the arse they are, because they show there spirit and faith in something else, and there are people saying shit about them, like "he ran of crying" and bullshit like that. That pisses me off.

Yeah id like to see something done about the victims of rape and abuse and not only from the church but from all aspects of life. They do what they can to stop that but those types of people are everywhere. So why doesnt the government do more to stop that? The catholic church at least out casts them, turns them over to the authorities, they try and do the right thing.

Yes ok, the church isnt perfect, but who is? let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Why dont you think about that a bit? They try and give people hope, hope that there is more, something more. That there is that better place.

I just dont see the point in complaining about the whole WYD. Its happening, nothing can stop it now so accept it and get over it. Each to their own, i bet there alot of people who support WYD.

[Abo Bob]

The catholic church at least out casts them, turns them over to the authorities, they try and do the right thing.

Yes ok, the church isnt perfect, but who is? let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Why dont you think about that a bit? They try and give people hope, hope that there is more, something more. That there is that better place.

I just dont see the point in complaining about the whole WYD. Its happening, nothing can stop it now so accept it and get over it. Each to their own, i bet there alot of people who support WYD.

Just give up now man. This is a current controversy. They don't turn these people over to the authorities, they move them around to different areas and sometimes countries to shield them from the truth.

It's just a little light hearted whinging and bandwagoning mate. Don't worry too much about it. I know I'm not.

[Beer Baron]

Because i see what good this can actually do for the world community. Is it right that the government has paid for all of it? no, i agree, but is it right that the government paid for the Olympics? no it isnt. Think about the world at the moment and people's attitude towards each other, now you have thousands of people from all over the world together for the one thing, is that not a good thing?

people take leave for no reason all the time, one could see this as a time to take leave for a reason, but i guess that would depend on your point of view.

I dont mean to insult you Beer, but i do get the shits when people jump up and down about WYD, because its just another form of Catholic bashing, which has been happening for centuries. I also get sick of hearing about what a crock it is and how badly done by we are because of it, the government gave the ok for a reason.

You know what, i would like to see the money spent on schools or hospitals, or even buying back Telstra and other buisnesses that can help. Fact of the matter is its here, so mose well accept it and stop winging about it.

fair enough. I think I was a little misunderstood. I wasn't having a go at WYD or catholics. I was having a go at our government for financing it. I am polish, and probably 80% of my family is catholic. I have no problem with us allowing to be run, and even helping with transport arrangements, road closure etc. but the level of support for this from the government is just way over the top.

[-FIGJAM-]

how often do the police shield corrupt members from the public and "move" them around? the reason why they shield such things is because off all the negative publicity that it brings up. Do you not think that its a little bit insulting the fact that msn had a poll asking if people think the catholic church is a force of good? apposed to what? that to me would be Catholic bashing.

I understand why people get the shits with how much we have put into this, but to me if it is only money then well why not? It will achieve alot, but i do understand the other side of the coin, of where else the money could be spent.

And Abo Bob, im not worried about it, but it does shit me after a while if you know what i mean.

[Duncan]

OK OK keep it civil everyone. This is the sort of topic where people troll, get pissed off and bannings get handed out

maybe there are better places to dicsuss the pros and cons of religion than a car forum?

[Abo Bob]

We're alright sir. Might just close it now before we get any closer to religious talk.