I Need Help (p Plate Laws)

[jamie814]

Hey guys,

I have just got my L plates and I have about 12k for a skyline, what skyline would suit the new P plate laws in Australia? I am thinking R33 gts. Also bearing in mind a skyline that wont have excessive mods. Even if someone can direct me to a skyline with the qualities on the net would be fantastic.

Thanks

Jamie

[ScaryTed77]

What skyline you can get and what mods you can do will vary from state to state.

Seriously, you are better off getting a 'normal' car for your P's and getting a turbo skyline when you have your full license. Save your money for the moment.

[MattD]

Unless you are incredibly in love with the Skyline shape, I'd advise to get something a bit smaller and fuel efficient -or- something that you can really learn to drive in. Like an 86, Integra or Clio Sport.

GTS represent no value for money in my opinion, all the unwanted attention with none of the perks.

It's certainly not a performer either.

All the best.

[jamie814]

Okay cheers guys,

I really want an r33 gts

is this car fuel efficient?

Oh also, whats the nissan silvia s13 turbo like for after my Ps or black Ps.

Cheers

Jamie

[MattD]

What do you want to do with the car?

Track, drift, tarmac, a to b, show?

[bozodos]

aussie R31 with a big cam and associated mods?

[Owgasm]

Black P's? What?

Don't buy a skyline, the price of a turbo'd one in 3-5 years will be about 5k or there abouts with the way its been falling, so wait till your opens.

[-R33GTS-]

PM Sent mate - Look forward to hearing from you

[SEB88Y]

Hey guys,

I have just got my L plates and I have about 12k for a skyline, what skyline would suit the new P plate laws in Australia? I am thinking R33 gts. Also bearing in mind a skyline that wont have excessive mods. Even if someone can direct me to a skyline with the qualities on the net would be fantastic.

Thanks

Jamie

Jamie, I'm in a similar position to you mate. Under P-Plate Laws in NSW (I'm not sure where you're from?) you are restricted from driving any car with:

-Eight or more cylinders

-A turbocharged engine

-A supercharged engine

-Engine performance modifications

In my opinion the GTS is a good option for now. With 12000 get a non-turbo charged R33 or 32 and you'll be set. Personally, I love the look of the GTS. I'm actually in love with it. I say wait out a couple years before going with the GTR. It's all you're decision though. Good luck with

Seb

[JI34GT]

Okay cheers guys,

I really want an r33 gts

is this car fuel efficient?

Oh also, whats the nissan silvia s13 turbo like for after my Ps or black Ps.

Cheers

Jamie

Hahahaha. skyline and fuel efficient dont go together.

Honda Jazz is fuel efficient.

But if you really want it, go for it, otherwise you'll spend the next how many years wanting one and getting jealous everytime a skyline does drive past.

[GTS4WD]

Honestly.. If you want a decent NA.. dont get an NA skyline. They have smaller brakes.. 4studs.. open diffs.. weaker boxes..

There are HEAPS of awesome NA's out there that should be thought about before buying an NA skyline:

SR S13

RX7

Type R

1.8L MX5

etc..

Skylines are not the answer to ALL of the worlds problems.. just most of them..

[SEB88Y]

Honestly.. If you want a decent NA.. dont get an NA skyline. They have smaller brakes.. 4studs.. open diffs.. weaker boxes..

There are HEAPS of awesome NA's out there that should be thought about before buying an NA skyline:

SR S13

RX7

Type R

1.8L MX5

etc..

Skylines are not the answer to ALL of the worlds problems.. just most of them..

Excuse my ignorance. But what do you mean by NA?

Do you mean 'stock'?

And if you do mean stock, there's always mods yea?

[Owgasm]

Rx7, P platers = no rotarys, except under like 1000 or 900cc.

[bombtrack]

Excuse my ignorance. But what do you mean by NA?

Do you mean 'stock'?

And if you do mean stock, there's always mods yea?

NA = Naturally Aspirated = No forced induction = No turbo.

Often also means smaller brakes, different diffs, different wheel stud patterns, weaker gearboxes, etc as it doesn't need to be designed/built for the extra power associated with the turbo.

[SEB88Y]

NA = Naturally Aspirated = No forced induction = No turbo.

Thanks bud.

Seb

[central coast person]

well seeing as i just got my P's i thought exactly what you are now and i love the skyline look, i wasnt going to go buy some other car just for speed i wanted its look but then i thought how to make it fast ....

so i brought a GTS-4 r33 (non-turbo) r32's GTS-4 are turbo chraged, unless you make it non turbo. Easiest to get it as a r33

also i did want it faster after 3 months so i re-bored the cylinders and imported later pistons from nissan japan for $900!!!! its cheap and i have a N/A with a power out put of 165Kw (i want 180Kw) completely stock except for my pistons i guess re-boring that whole mm had drastic effects and reconditioned top end

for the $900 spent its the best way to ask for speed from a non turbo.

3 weeks and i will have new coil packs, extractors, going up 50cc with the injectors, pod filter ( a whole 1Kw of power )

notice all these mods are ones police cant see except the extractors but they dont know that

you really have plenty of options to choose from i brought my skyline cheap $9000 and reconditioned all my engine now so im getting a very "NEW" car out of this

its all about sitting down making a list of the possibilities mate

[R31Nismoid]

What state are you in?

That plays a fair part these days as no two states are the same with laws in some instances (which is most annoying)

[GTR-N1]

Jamie, I'm in a similar position to you mate. Under P-Plate Laws in NSW (I'm not sure where you're from?) you are restricted from driving any car with:

-Eight or more cylinders

-A turbocharged engine

-A supercharged engine

-Engine performance modifications

In my opinion the GTS is a good option for now. With 12000 get a non-turbo charged R33 or 32 and you'll be set. Personally, I love the look of the GTS. I'm actually in love with it. I say wait out a couple years before going with the GTR. It's all you're decision though. Good luck with

Seb

Hi,

Sorry to go a little off the point...

but does this mean that ($$$ aside) a P plater (a wealthy one) can drive

an E46 M3, NSX, Lotus Elise etc?

In other words, the law is not purely based on power output; but generalised?

Just wondering?

Cheers, T

[SEB88Y]

Hi,

Sorry to go a little off the point...

but does this mean that ($$ aside) a P plater (a wealthy one) can drive

an E46 M3, NSX, Lotus Elise etc?

In other words, the law is not purely based on power output; but generalised?

Just wondering?

Cheers, T

I'm sorry I should of specified the exceptions.

The ones prohibited are ...

-BMW M and M3

-Honda NSX

-Nissan 350Z

-All Porsches 94+

-Mercedes-Benz SLK350

But there are some exceptions which made it through some loop holes

-E30 BMW M3

-Lotus Elise

-VW Golf R32

This list applies to every state by the way.

Hope that helps

Seb

Edited July 21, 2008 by SEB88Y

[Housie]

the price of a turbo'd one in 3-5 years will be about 5k or there abouts with the way its been falling

i hope not lol

Im afraid i must agree with most others here. Bye something cheap that it wont really matter if you hit a curb, ding a fender or scratch a rim. cause that will happen in the first few years of driving. And with the price of fuel at the moment its probably not really worth paying for a 6 cylinder NA.

but i know when ive had my heart set one something, no matter what anyone else said, i still chased it. If having an NA r33 is what will put a buldge in your pants.....