Differences Between R32 Gtr's

[Black Widow]

Hey guys,

I'm in the process of looking at (possibly buying) an R32 GTR. I've found a white one which seems to be in decent condition (its from The Toy Shop in Sydney) and they're telling me its a Nismo GTR which is very rare apparently.

What are the differences between this model and a normal GTR? I would assume, and i think i can see by the pictures its got nismo gauges etc?

I've attached pics for your reference too

Thanks Nick

[djr81]

It has one of the hallmarks of a Nismo version - the rear window with no wiper and some of the other more generic stuff. But the only way to be sure is to check the build number. It is the KBNR32RBFS ZN which is the number sequence for the N1's.

How much do they want for it?

[sav man]

Nismo's were gunmetal grey only. Does it have ABS? Also it dosn't have the Nismo pod thing in front of the rear wheels.

Easy way to to get the vin.

[djr81]

I doubt it is an easly model Group A homologation Nismo version simply because it is white (they were all grey) and also it has the late series console etc. It may (may) be a late N1, however.

Broadly the plates for the various models read :

Poverty pack

KBNR32RXFSLM2G

V spec

KBNR32RBFS AA

V spec 11

KBNR32RBFS8AA

Nismo

KBNR32RXFSL RA

BNR32-100198 for the build number. The 100 starts the sequence, the remainder of the numbering being from one to 560.

N1

KBNR32RBFS ZN

Edited July 31, 2008 by djr81

[Black Widow]

It has one of the hallmarks of a Nismo version - the rear window with no wiper and some of the other more generic stuff. But the only way to be sure is to check the build number. It is the KBNR32RBFS ZN which is the number sequence for the N1's.

How much do they want for it?

$25,990 with 12 months rego and 3 years warranty

Nismo's were gunmetal grey only. Does it have ABS? Also it dosn't have the Nismo pod thing in front of the rear wheels.

Easy way to to get the vin.

No it doesn't have ABS. And what pod thing? I'm only going off photos the guy sent me. But if i do have a look at it i'll check that out

[djr81]

Well if it is what he says it is I would reckon it is well worth the trip to look at it. What year & how many kms are being claimed?

As for the pod thing, don't worry about it. The early model Nismo cars had them, the late N1s sometimes did, sometimes didn't as near as I can make out.

[Black Widow]

Well if it is what he says it is I would reckon it is well worth the trip to look at it. What year & how many kms are being claimed?

As for the pod thing, don't worry about it. The early model Nismo cars had them, the late N1s sometimes did, sometimes didn't as near as I can make out.

1992 Model with 52,000kms

[Beer Baron]

generally in order of desirability the R32 models go:

N1

V-specII

V-spec

regular late models (+92)

nismo

regular early models (pre 92)

the nismo version don't really have anything fancy. They don't have brembos like the vspecs do. They generally have some nismo body add ons, no wiper (though you could option one I believe), no ABS (though again, you could probably have optioned that too). some claim they had different turbos too, others claim they just had standard turbos. personally I've never seen a nismo edition one sell for much more than a comparable (age/condition/mods) plain version 32 GTR. part of that is because I believe all the nismo models were built 1990 and earlier so they are only really a little more desirable than other early model 32s.

anyway, I guess the point is, buy the car based on it's condition, mods, price, history etc. don't get yourself bowled over by the fact it's a nismo edition. just buy it cause it's a good example of a 32 (if it is).

also, the toy shop is not in sydney. they are about 2 hours drive north.

[Black Widow]

Oh RLY? Shows how much notice i took of where they were

I probably should add it also has:

- IC water spray

- Brembo's (not sure if they've been put on afterwards or what)

- R33 GTR wheels

[sav man]

pod is the rear of the side skirt of this pic

you might have a N1 there

[funkymonkey]

give us the VIN number of the car and we can tell you exactly what it is and isn't.

I'm sure if it had a HKS sticker on the boot the pundit selling you the car will tell you its a limited edition HKS Zero R model.

Also N1's don't come with aircon... which this has.

[djr81]

Ring the bloke up & get the KBNR32 etc number sequence. Go from there.

A late N1 should have Brembos. No idea about the other stuff coming ex factory, but I doubt it.

[Black Widow]

ok well i've tried contacting the guy again but he's ducked out for a bit so hopefully i'll have the VIN soon

Edited July 31, 2008 by Black Widow

[LotusGTR]

anyway, I guess the point is, buy the car based on it's condition, mods, price, history etc. don't get yourself bowled over by the fact it's a nismo edition. just buy it cause it's a good example of a 32 (if it is).

Couldn't agree more. It's not an investment (you will lose) and how much you lose will depend on the car its self and what has / has not been done to it. If you're not making money out of it (which you're not) then you need to enjoy the car and stem the potential flow of cash fixing it up if it's no good, so always buy on the merrits of the car in question.

I guess the Nismo thing may help it hold its value but I dare say any extra expenses you will incurr as a result of buying a dud car (Nismo or not) will far outweigh this.

I guess if you gotta have a Nismo, just cos you do, then do your homework, screw them down (as they are generally not selling well) and go for it. I'd be finding a schmiko workshop and getting them to go over it with a fine tooth cliche.

My 2c worth.

[gazza750]

also Nismoeditions did not have air con in them (weight reduction)

[Black Widow]

I definitely don't want to skimp on the purchase of the car and i want to make sure i buy a quality car...mainly due to the fact that if i bought a dud, i wouldn't be able to afford to repair it. I don't necessarily HAVE to have a NISMO..i just really want a 32 GTR. And i just want something CLEAN and i dare say moderately stock

**EDIT** going off what you're all saying...i'm gonna come to the conclusion that this ISN'T a nismo edition considering its got AC?

Edited July 31, 2008 by Black Widow

[djr81]

They were specced differently.

Don't surmise, get the build number & the KBNR number. Then you will know.

[LotusGTR]

I definitely don't want to skimp on the purchase of the car and i want to make sure i buy a quality car...mainly due to the fact that if i bought a dud, i wouldn't be able to afford to repair it. I don't necessarily HAVE to have a NISMO..i just really want a 32 GTR. And i just want something CLEAN and i dare say moderately stock

**EDIT** going off what you're all saying...i'm gonna come to the conclusion that this ISN'T a nismo edition considering its got AC?

My experience of owning an R32 GTR is that from a repairs and maintenance point of view they are very heavy on your wallet. You need to use specialised workshops who will charge out handsomely and parts are not cheap if you want to do the job properly (which you kind of have to do if it's not to unravel its self on you.

Do your research into the cost of R&M.

Basic engine re-build is $10k.......

[Beer Baron]

I definitely don't want to skimp on the purchase of the car and i want to make sure i buy a quality car...mainly due to the fact that if i bought a dud, i wouldn't be able to afford to repair it. I don't necessarily HAVE to have a NISMO..i just really want a 32 GTR. And i just want something CLEAN and i dare say moderately stock

**EDIT** going off what you're all saying...i'm gonna come to the conclusion that this ISN'T a nismo edition considering its got AC?

don't be too sure. I'm fairly certain you could option almost any car with any thing. so a nismo or N1 with aircon as an option is not out of the question.

the only way to tell for certain is the VIN. things like wiper, air con, kit, brakes, whatever are good clues, but they don't tell you for certain anything at all. VIN will reveal the truth.

[erwin_skyline]

spot on