Intercooler Questions

[Damo_c]

Ok so ive installed my fmic and just went for a drive and have noticed a few things.

1st question - should the pipe going into the cooler at the bottom right (looking at the front of the car) be hot and the bottom left be cold or the other way around?

2nd question - ive wound my t boost all the way down and im still hitting close to 12 pound by 3.5 k but doesnt pull as hard as when i had the stock cooler in, it just gathers boost slowly instead of bang its there, is this right?

3rd question - Is there anyway i would know if i have it done the install wrong? eg, different sounds

4th question - My car now idles around 1k where as before it would sit about 800rpm, is this cos of the cooler?

5th - Do i need to do the self learn on idle again with the pfc, it is untuned atm?

Thanks

[old mate]

dude turbo side will be hot. it will be a bit slower as the air has to go further now. as for idle i would just be guessing.

[Cubes]

If its idling high check for a loose hose clamp or vac leaks.

Might be worth grabbing a can of start ya bastard and spraying it around the fmic and all joins to see if there is a vac leak.

A fmic will soften the power delivery. I also was a tad dissapointed when I first went an fmic. BUT what it does allow you to do is run a little more boost and make more consistent power after you give it a hiding. Prior to the fmic mine felt quite crappy in third gear after I had given it a few full throttle runs.

[Damo_c]

dude turbo side will be hot.

The hot and cold that part was just a throw in question to make sure, i assumed that.

[Damo_c]

I know itl be better in the long run with a tune and when i get my new turbo (gota still save a bit more) but i just didnt think it would be so different, it feels like ive lost power and not gained any. Soapy water around the clamps would do a similar thing wouldnt it, if checking for leaks? The blow off sounds sooo much better, bugger putting as aftermarket one on now!

Edited August 17, 2008 by Damo_c

[R31Nismoid]

1. Yes

2. Your running a larger cooler, more boost and no tune. Of course its not gonig to be great

3. Not really

4. Vac leak maybe, as stated.

5. No, but that comes as no surprise with point #2. - YOU SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO HIT 12PSI UNTUNED.

[W0rp3D]

YOU SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO HIT 12PSI UNTUNED.

So what are you trying to say, that i should not be running a hi flow (to4 front vg30 rear) at .9bar with standard injectors, fuel pump, afm and ecu?

I think im at the limit though, breaks down when it hits 1bar so when it spiked to 1.2 it was not happy at all.

[R31Nismoid]

read his mod list - he has a untuned PFC

[W0rp3D]

it may be wrong but from what i have read an untuned pfc is at about the same level as a standard ecu, is this wrong?

[KiwiRS4T]

it may be wrong but from what i have read an untuned pfc is at about the same level as a standard ecu, is this wrong?

I don't know about that but... standard ECU is not much good once you start modifying the engine. The point of a PFC is that you can change timing, Air/fuel ratios etc - untuned its just a waste of $$$ ( and if you've bought it second hand it could have a tune suited to a set-up which is quite different from what you have and could in fact be worse than your fact ecu).

[Cubes]

The maps are basically a direct copy HOWEVER the load points used for a given airflow value is slightly off as the PFC runs a 20x20 vs the std ecu's 16x16 load map.

As a result the pfc usually ends up running a tad more ignition at wot which usually causes the car to det. In my experience anyway. Depends on the level of tune/mods/boost. Would likely be fine for a car running std boost.

[Damo_c]

Yes it is untuned, i was guna save some money for a turbo then a tune. I drive the car very easy at the moment. I dont wanna waste getting a tune then in 2 months having to get another tune after getting the turbo. I hit 12 psi maybe 5 times since ive had the pfc put in, yeah i am risking a bit of engine damage but when the car is my daily driver and i need to floor it a bit to let a cop go thru or something like that, which happened only a week or so ago, so be it, but ive been very careful as to change at about 2800-3000 light accelaration so bugger all boost. The tune will be happening very soon cos now youve gotten me all worried. Gota use the left over moeny from my wedding to do so. Ive got the t boost wound all the way down but its still boosting up. The pfc is brand new so there is not another cars tune on it.

[old mate]

didnt mean to sound like a wanker dude

[Damo_c]

didnt mean to sound like a wanker dude

Nah i fixed the idle prob. leaking hose clamp