Bicycle Thread

[mad082]

it's running avid elixir brakes, mix of x7 and x9.

as for trek being overpriced, i thought the same initially, but they have dropped their prices a bit recently. and after working on a lot more high end bikes i've found their attention to detail and overall design much better than a lot of other brands. i've had to fix a lot of other brands bikes over the past few months and some of the designs of stuff is just terrible. don't even get me started on titanium frames. they are like riding wet spaghetti

[ido09s]

Trek are really nice bikes. I have riden Giants and am now riding a Trek Remedy 9. I love it. The only thing i would sell it for would be a custom build SB66

[xALmoN]

thicker tubes would reduce flex tremendously, i like titanium, very much lighter than alumium or steel, and corrosion resistant.

its a very pretty bike, but what fork is that up front? and what shock? and price?

[mad082]

Trek are really nice bikes. I have riden Giants and am now riding a Trek Remedy 9. I love it. The only thing i would sell it for would be a custom build SB66

yeah the remedy's are nice bikes. the boss has a 9.9 (the carbon one). it's nice to ride. he put a rockshox reverb seatpost (the hydraulic adjustable one) on it. they are cool

thicker tubes would reduce flex tremendously, i like titanium, very much lighter than alumium or steel, and corrosion resistant.

its a very pretty bike, but what fork is that up front? and what shock? and price?

i've seen very few titanium frames that don't flex. and while they are corrosion resistant, they suffer from metal fatigue much faster than steel or alloy (because of the flex, and it's more the welds that break than the actual tubing) so actually have a shorter life. also you will find that they make titanium springs for rear shocks. the boss's DH bike has one.

as for the session 8, it's running boxxer RC forks and the rear shock is just some shit fox coil spring shock. he's going to replace it, possibly with a rockshox air shock.

the boss has a session 88 team frame (same as used as the trek world dowhill team). he built it up with boxxer world cups, XX or XO (can't remember which). only thing letting it down is the wheels because he couldn't get the wheels he wanted. it weighs in at about 17kg. with lighter wheels it would be under 17kg. he's also got an intense m1.

[xALmoN]

well, if he wanted wheels, and he owns a bicycle shop, can't he just go custom?

true on the breaking welds part, and they are so much more expensive.. ti spokes are very very yum though..

i've never owned a full suspension bicycle, and nowadays its all the rage, i found that it actually makes climbs easier because you can just bash up rocks and roots without really looking. But we're talking about DH huh, other than falling and breaking stuff, not that good at DH. xcountry though. =D

[ido09s]

yeah the remedy's are nice bikes. the boss has a 9.9 (the carbon one). it's nice to ride. he put a rockshox reverb seatpost (the hydraulic adjustable one) on it. they are cool

At 14.5 kilos mines a little heavy, but its lots of fun.

I need to do some research on what i can swap over from the Remedy to a Yeti SB66. The Sb66 is a very nice looking bit of gear and apparently a very nice bike to ride. Setup with a 150mm fork i think it would be a great all rounder

Edited June 30, 2011 by ido09s

[mad082]

well, if he wanted wheels, and he owns a bicycle shop, can't he just go custom?

true on the breaking welds part, and they are so much more expensive.. ti spokes are very very yum though..

i've never owned a full suspension bicycle, and nowadays its all the rage, i found that it actually makes climbs easier because you can just bash up rocks and roots without really looking. But we're talking about DH huh, other than falling and breaking stuff, not that good at DH. xcountry though. =D

the cost of building rims isn't much different than buying (can sometimes be more expensive. it will always be more expensive for a customer since they have to pay the labour as well), but buying them prebuilt saves you the hassle.

as for dualies climbing better, that very much depends on the suspension setup. a decent trail or cross country bike will slimb wheel, especially if it has a rear shock with pro pedal, although a lot of cross country shocks have a lockout. the reason being that the more "bob" you get when climbing the more energy that the suspension is absorbing and the harder you have to work. something like a downhill bike will suck arse for climbing. not just because of the weight but because the suspension is too saggy.

At 14.5 kilos mines a little heavy, but its lots of fun.

I need to do some research on what i can swap over from the Remedy to a Yeti SB66. The Sb66 is a very nice looking bit of gear and apparently a very nice bike to ride. Setup with a 150mm fork i think it would be a great all rounder

most of the stuff will transfer over to the yeti. may need some new cables though, and unfortunately this may also include the rear brake line. chain may also need to be altered. seat post is another possible issue, as with steerer tube length, but if you have a few spacers there to play with you may be ok. headset bearings are another thing to look at. final issue may be with the front derailleur and bottom bracket bearings.

and yeah, 6" bikes are a good alrounder. the boss took the demo remedy 8 we have to a downhill race a few weeks back (with a few minor modifications, such as wider bars, DH tyres and single speed cranks with a chain device). he came 4th in his class (not the highest class, but one of the top classes) and was only about 2 seconds off first place and the 3 guys in front of him were all on full DH bikes. the other guy at work did the same on his gary fisher roscoe. he came 4th in his class as well (veterans class). they both beat a heap of guys on DH bikes and stirred some shit, which was their intention.

[ido09s]

You named almost every bit of the bike just then lol

I have spoken to Paul Rowney over email today and it will be cheaper to just buy a complete bike i think. I would love to run XX on an SB66 but its just over kill for a bike that will be ridden and thrashed regularly, but Paul will be doing an X0 build kit so if i buy one i will just go with that.

[xALmoN]

well the only way you can get those pretty pretty high engagement hubs are through custom.. nobody prebuilds wheels with chrisking hubs..

[GOD12A]

Heya all

Good to see we have some riders on SAU!

I've ridden mountain bikes for over 15yrs, my first job was working in a bike shop at the age of 12, raced XC pretty seriously 'back in the day' (raced with Cadel Evans at national level) but haven't done much recently.

The previous 3yrs have been spent racing enduros from short 4hr blats to a few 24hr team events (one 24hr solo) and a five day multi-stage race.

I also have a Yeti DH9 for plowing duties and a roadie for training.

Also played on a stock (26") trials rig before I moved to a mod (20") 'back in the day' when parts were available in Oz (try finding a 19" trials tyre at a bike shop??)

Anyone apart from IDO09S ride dirt in Sydney?

I'm extremely overdue for a pedal.

Mark

[xALmoN]

i had an echo pure for awhile...

and planet x jackflash back in 02.

[dan_the_man]

anyone used a hub dyno before? did you notice it made it a little harder to ride?

[mad082]

do you mean a dynamo dan? as in hook lights up to it and the come on when the wheel turns? if so, yes i have. we have a bike at work with the shimano dynamo hub in the front wheel powering front and rear LED lights. you don't notice any resistance. you can pick the front of the bike up and spin the wheel and it still spins for ages. because they are able to use the whole hub as a dynamo they can have it create a much higher output with a lower resistance.

[dan_the_man]

yep dynamo

was thinking about hooking one up to charge a iPhone on the long distance ride.

[GOD12A]

Heya DAN!

Isn't there little solar panels available?

Not comfy if you don't use a camelbak etc But I assume long distance ride = more than a few hours anyways.

I've considered it for my mobile as the GPS sucks a bit of juice and won't last more than a few hours, especially in the bush where I normally ride.

Mark

[dan_the_man]

Hi Mark

I think there is solar panels. I'm not sure which would be more efficent though.

[GOD12A]

Heya DAN,

I assume the dyno will be better, but if you're going for a long ride, I assume it's for training and they will suck power from your wheel (I've never ridden a new skool one, but the older ones were farked!!). Not overly great for comparative measurements

Just a thought!

Mark

[dan_the_man]

They old bottle type ones were just awful.

How do they change my hub?

[mad082]

dan, the shimano dynamo hubs are 6v, 3w output. not sure how these would match up with a phone charger, or how they would compare with the little solar panel. they come in various setups of spoke numbers and, disc brake, etc. they aren't that expensive either. the most expensive would retail at about $180 (cheapest about $60), plus the labour to lace it in and new spokes. you could probably get the hub cheaper online.

on those rides you will find that at every stop any power point will be jammed full of power boards full of chargers. best option would be to buy a spare battery.

[xALmoN]

Do you reckon its worth it, buying a full bicycle, paying installments, and then, porting the parts all over to my bike? and selling off the rest??? Lol.