Bicycle Thread

[NZM.031]

me eps... if you want a bike that is different and stands out... this is the bike for you my friend.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Shogun-Coca-Cola-Mo...=item20b07f0e37

[Mr Eps]

....no, you!

..NO GIVESIES BACKSIES!!!

[NZM.031]

MIRRORS x infinity!!!

[NZM.031]

on a more serious note...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...atchlink:top:en

this is the beauty of a build up... Kona Stuff... to buy it as a complete bike.. its a heap of junk, base model shit, nasty wheels and hubs. brakes ok, but nasty running gear.. you're better off paying the extra for a higher spec bike

subsequently others see a kona stuff frame for sale and bypass it for the reason above.. but to the trained eye and bargain builder... its a tidy 7005 alum frame to use as a base for just about any bike you care to ride.. for next to nothing.

[Mr Eps]

i don't really wanna disclose what i'm bidding on incase i get outbid by someone who reads this (never know)

but here is the frame i want

feel free to have a look at it - what do you guys think? marc? decent frame? seems rust free... i'd probably paint it - don't really feel the magenta...

[mad082]

i don't really wanna disclose what i'm bidding on incase i get outbid by someone who reads this (never know)

but here is the frame i want

feel free to have a look at it - what do you guys think? marc? decent frame? seems rust free... i'd probably paint it - don't really feel the magenta...

*in monty python voice*

RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

ok well now that that is done i will explain a few things. first, if it was rusty i would be worried since aluminium doesn't rust. secondly, RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY. that is a 650c wheeled bike, which means your choice of wheels and tyres for it will be EXTREMELY limited. in fact i don't know if i even regularly deal with a company that sells 650c wheels or tyres. i know velocity do wheels, but they and the people who do zipp wheels would be about the only 2 companies i deal with who do them, and as for tyres i might deal with 1 company who does them, and they will probably all be high end stuff. you won't find much 650c second hand stuff as only about 5% of bikes on the market use it. if you go new, a set of velocity wheels will set you back between $400 and $450 for a pair and they are probably one of the cheaper ones as that will be built up with track hubs. pretty much all other wheels will be cassette hub wheels and probably closer to $1000.

[mad082]

oh and don't forget that when choosing wheels, if you go track hubs you will have to get some that are wide enough to fit in a geared bike frame as track hubs can be up to about 2cm skinnier, which if you put them in you can end up breaking axles all the time or even damaging the frame. if you can't find any then you can get a cassette hub with a single speed kit on it.

also because some don't have adjustable dropouts (can't slide the wheel backwards and fowards), such as that one you linked to as it took a frame mount derailleur, you will need to run a chain tensioner.

[xALmoN]

i'd actually prefer running mountainbike gear, with 36 in the front and 16 in the rear. With small width rims and tires, can go fast too! and the riding position wont kill your back.

[Mr Eps]

ok marc - in rebuttal to your MAMMOTH post lol

650 wheels are triathlete sizes, however 650c is a farily common fixed gear size too...

weinmann make sweet looking 650c wheels similar to velocity deepV / B43 vibe

but machine faced for brake ready

COULD use a chain tensioner, but i prefer to remove links from chain and make it shorter... hate tensioners =P

besides - seller even says on his ad "Also have several sets of 650c TT wheels coming up for sale soon (Corima / Zipp / Velocity)"

sooooooooooo it can't be THAT hard...

but yes i am aware of 650c's rarity and scarceness... but the parts are very much still out there!!!!

there's also this frame linked there that i was considering but at this point in time i favour the cannondale because i KNOW cannondale make amazing frames... raleigh i'm unfamiliar with...

[mad082]

ok, price i quoted for the velocity wheels was from just ringing up and asking them. i think they said they only do 4 different rims in 650c. can get either machined sidewalls or non machined, and built up with sealed bearing track hubs available in flip flop so you can run a freewheel, or fixed/fixed

as for zipp wheels, unless they are very old, expect to pay about what the RRP was on your bike. i just rang the supplier and they wholesale at well over $2000 a pair. retail would be around $3500, so i wouldn't be suprised if they go for at least $1000, and if you look at the prices of other zipp wheels on ebay you will see that i'm not too far off the mark.

as for just taking links out of the chain, that would work with something like the raleigh (or anything that used the old style axle mount derailleurs and has dropouts like the raleigh) as you can move the wheel backwards and forwards to adjust the tension on the chain like you do with a bmx, but if you look at your mtb or that magenta frame you linked to or pretty much any other modern geared bike, you can't do that, so you will end up with either the chain being too long, or being too short and not being able to put it on.

[mad082]

oh and as for tyres, michelin don't do any 650c tyres. continental do 2, 1 at about $70, the other at about $110, and i think schwalbe may do 1 or 2. yes they are a triatlon size wheel, but very few companies actually make 650c tri bikes. most will be running 700c. i know that off the top of my head that the 4 tri bikes that cannondale do and the one that giant does and the one apollo did a year or 2 ago all ran 700c. in fact in the last 10 years i have only ever seen 1 650c bike in the flesh. the wheels are very close in size to a 26" wheel, but different enough that you couldn't substitue one over as the brakes wouldn't reach the rim (in most cases at least).

[Mr Eps]

welllllllll call me crazy but could i just "STUFF" a 700c wheel into the 650 frame? the difference between 650 and 700 isn't that big is it???

wah.

maybe i'll just wait this one out....

[mad082]

difference in rim size between a 650c and a 700c is about 2" in overall height, so a 700c wheel would sit 1" further into the frame/forks and once you put a tyre on it it would rub on the frame and wouldn't turn. a 650c tyre actually has a smaller outside diameter (talking tyre not rim here) than a 26" mtb tyre. you could posibbly put a 26" wheel with a 26 x 1 tyre in the frame, but you may not get the brakes to reach the rim as the 26" rim is smaller than a 650c by a bit over 1cm.

[Mr Eps]

i'll just hold my breath for a better frame i reckon

thoughts on the raleigh frame??? i don't mind that frame but looks a bit awkward compared to my cannondale - a dedicated track frame with horizontal chain stays and horizontal dropouts

i'll just wait it out - i'm in no rush being that i already have a bike =)

EDIT: the couriers and messengers in perth all hang out at the "one spot" all day waiting for jobs - reckon it'd be a good idea to see if they have any old frames they no longer want??? i reckon that could be a winner but they'd probably want me to pay the eartch for a piece of garbage they have... plus those guys put their bikes thru some serious shit... marc? what you reckon of this

i just wanted a smaller frame because - well... i for one would like a smaller more "flicky" frame... and also this way my gf / mum etc can borrow it - watching my gf get on my capo is like watching a circus ringmaster ride a penny farthing - only a lot less gracefull

speaking of which

fixies were the "in thing" now it's "brakeless bmx riding"

.....2012... the mayan prediction.... the riding craze is predicted to be.... the...

mother fucking penny farthing up in this bitch.

and one more - best pic ever.

imagine - in about 18 months time... the people who complain about the pancake eating roadbikers will be complaining about the tea sipping monacle wearing penny farthing-ers

EDIT - why the hell is the second bloke with the modernistic bike running a penny farthing with both a back brake (sensible) AND a front brake????

little bit dangerous don't you think? also could this imply freewheel cog? again isn't that a little dumb??? didn't a guy in queensland die yesterday doing something slightly more responsible than riding a penny farthing freewheel with front brakes?

(he died riding a wheelie bin down a steep hill - apparently he died laughing his arse off though)

but seriously i can't think of anythign more terrifying than an unstable useless obsolete bike that is too high to dismount from that can move faster than my legs can pedal... terrifying shit!

Edited April 20, 2010 by Mr Eps

[xALmoN]

your solution, discbrakes!

[NZM.031]

speaking of which

fixies were the "in thing" now it's "brakeless bmx riding"

.....2012... the mayan prediction.... the riding craze is predicted to be.... the...

mother fucking penny farthing up in this bitch.

and one more - best pic ever.

imagine - in about 18 months time... the people who complain about the pancake eating roadbikers will be complaining about the tea sipping monacle wearing penny farthing-ers

EDIT - why the hell is the second bloke with the modernistic bike running a penny farthing with both a back brake (sensible) AND a front brake????

little bit dangerous don't you think? also could this imply freewheel cog? again isn't that a little dumb??? didn't a guy in queensland die yesterday doing something slightly more responsible than riding a penny farthing freewheel with front brakes?

(he died riding a wheelie bin down a steep hill - apparently he died laughing his arse off though)

but seriously i can't think of anythign more terrifying than an unstable useless obsolete bike that is too high to dismount from that can move faster than my legs can pedal... terrifying shit!

mwhahahaha... no way... penny farthings will go the way of uni cycles... only for geeks and nerds...

but... if they do catch on... and they do have brakes id love to see the old school yard prank of swapping the brake cables over so the brake levers are opposite.. imagine that poor kid riding home none the wiser to his impending face plant of doom from a height of 6ft.

[xALmoN]

HAHAHAAHA! I remember attempting to do a pedal kick drop on a friend's trials bike... His rear brake was on the left, the last thing i saw before i fell on my ass was the front wheel stop spinning.

[mad082]

penny farthing races have been going on for years. i'd love to have a ride of a penny farthing. there are even penny farthing trikes with 3 big wheels.

i am yet to see 1 with a free wheel though. as for the brakes on the front, you would need them since the rear brakes won't do shit, and with those useless sidepull calipers you won't really have much chance of flipping it if you yank on them hard.

[xALmoN]

200mm disc brakes for the penny farthings!

[mad082]

8" rotors on a penny farthing would actually be pretty weak. it's all about leverage. on something with as big a wheel as a penny farthing even an 8" rotor will have a very small amount of leverage. i wouldn't be suprised if they wouldn't even lock up with a quad piston caliper on it.