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What Management System To Go For My 32 Gtr?

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Hey ppl.. just trying to figure out what ecu to go for.. at the moment i have a stock ecu in my 93 R32 GTR and have just finished off rebuilding my motor from top to bottom and it has now received the following:

- Stock bottom end

- N1 oil pump

- Garrett GT2860 - 10 turbochargers

- Tomei Type A camshafts 260 degree 9.15mm lift

- 550cc denso injectors

- Higher volume fuel pump

- Larger FMIC

Not sure what figures i should be expecting, hopefully someone else out there with a similar setup can tell me what numbers they a pulling at all fours and also advise on what management system i should perhaps go for, which is easy to use and run... Thanks :P

badgtr34 Community Regular

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re-map it.. who can do that, i mean, to put a power fc its going to cost roughly $1800 including install and the tune.. is it worth it?

by remaping, what can you gain from this and how much is it usually?

badgtr34 Community Regular

badgtr34

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few diffenrent paths which you could go down, however, bang for buck??

hearing great stuff on the Vipec ecu, mixed emotions on power fc and wolf... but when it comes down to how much and what you have paid for which is the better option??

right now, i am leaning towards a power fc and only reason is because they have been around for that long and everyone is using it, and that i hear more people going from one ecu to power fc and hardly people going from power fc to somehting else......

hmmm food for thought! :O

candy33 Experienced

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few diffenrent paths which you could go down, however, bang for buck??

hearing great stuff on the Vipec ecu, mixed emotions on power fc and wolf... but when it comes down to how much and what you have paid for which is the better option??

right now, i am leaning towards a power fc and only reason is because they have been around for that long and everyone is using it, and that i hear more people going from one ecu to power fc and hardly people going from power fc to somehting else......

hmmm food for thought! :O

Well i had a power fc before and went to the Vipec system as did a few of my friends and they all recommend it.

Got rid of my afm's and gain power all across the rev range with the Vipec, aswell as much smoother idle etc. my other car has a Haltech e11v2 and the Vipec is on par. And for $1600, why wouldnt you??

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Go for the Vipec ecu. I just got one and can't be happier with the results :banana:

I will have to agree here too. If you got the pennies go the V88 and hook into the factory knock sensors.

badgtr34 Community Regular

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purchase, install and tune power fc.... roughly looking at $1500

purchase, install and tune vipec... roughly $1600.... but like what most people have said, some instances have seen an extra 30awkw's from coming from a power fc tune to a vipec tune...

for an extra $100 odd that seems to be pretty good! thanks guys helped me heaps, muchly appreciated.. let u know how it goes!

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Wolf - local manufacture, local (24/7) support.

It will set you back around $2500, installed and tuned. In that, they keep the car for a week to get the cold starts working correctly as well.

The results you will get are only as good as the tuner. So, no matter which ECU you choose, get it tuned by someone who knows the unit. All Wolf tuners (as listed on their website) are trained by Wolf.

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lets just clear this up, it shouldnt matter if you use a motec, a powerfc, a ninetendo gameboy, a hks fcon pro, an iphone, or the latest vipec

the power output should be the same, the response, torque etc should all be the same if and only IF

they are tuned correctly

so for the people who move from ecu ABC and then install ecu XYZ and gain power

my first response is the original ecu wasnt tuned properly or not setup properly

furthermore i cannot see how there would be a power gain moving from afm sensor to map sensor

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Well i had a power fc before and went to the Vipec system as did a few of my friends and they all recommend it.

Got rid of my afm's and gain power all across the rev range with the Vipec, aswell as much smoother idle etc. my other car has a Haltech e11v2 and the Vipec is on par. And for $1600, why wouldnt you??

Without starting another ECU war or whatever else.

Whoever you were using to setup the PFC, didnt do the job correctly, there is nothing more to that.

lets just clear this up, it shouldnt matter if you use a motec, a powerfc, a ninetendo gameboy, a hks fcon pro, an iphone, or the latest vipec

the power output should be the same, the response, torque etc should all be the same if and only IF

they are tuned correctly

so for the people who move from ecu ABC and then install ecu XYZ and gain power

my first response is the original ecu wasnt tuned properly or not setup properly

furthermore i cannot see how there would be a power gain moving from afm sensor to map sensor

Exactly.

My RB26, PFC idles fine, drives fine and makes the same power/response as any other RB26 with the same setup.

Id imagine it would be the same regardless of my ECU choice for that matter as long as the person setting it up, knows what they are doing

badgtr - end of the day its like this.

1. Pick your tuner

2. Use the ECU they are most comfy with.

3. Make sure that ECU at least is semi-common so if you have an issue later, you can switch tuner without much issue

Simple as that.

Every ECU for a STREET CAR is just as good as any other. Its all about it being setup correctly.

Having launch control, 15 auxilary inputs, anti-lag or any other thing that sounds good but in reality you'll never use, is just pointless and shouldnt be something you consider when buying the ECU for a STREET CAR

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furthermore i cannot see how there would be a power gain moving from afm sensor to map sensor

Unless the engine is consuming enough air that the AFM are causing a restriction. Otherwise I agree.

Cheers

Marty

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