JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 Yeah a mate just suggested it might be the cat blocked.... my dump front and cat are all welded together... i checked the other end of it when i pulled it off the other day and it seemed alright.. i had to turn it upside down and bang it on the concrete and the old turbo wheel and sh!t came out but maybe it did more damage?? completely blocked it up?? That would make it have massive backpressure and not be able to spool up right? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano4127 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Now you have the perfect oportunity to take it for a spin around the block without the exhaust hooked up for testing purposes only Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 didnt think of that, could have leftovers from the old turbo lodged in the cat anyways as someone already said... and i know its simple an more then likely not this, but is ur boost gauge connected properly? i.e when under vacum the hose is sucking itself into a sealed position on the back but then when it makes boost its blowing off so that its not sealing. dare say that blockage in the exhaust is a good one Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granthem Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) If the wheel has hit the honeycomb material in the cat there is a fair chance its done some damage. It can very easily collapse and be pushed to the rear of the cat where it becomes lodged. Cut the cat off, fair chance your problem could be lodged there Edited September 3, 2008 by Granthem Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM-R33 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Hope im right steve It's gotta be the cat, nothing else it could be other than a dodgy turbo but i doubt that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 ahh well i just spent a few hours pulling the dump and cat off... i smashed all the honeycomb out and stuck the hose through it (closest thing i could find) and the nozzle came out the other end of it... so there's no restriction in that.. and the side of the cat i could see (catback side) was fine. Started the car up.... no difference... same thing............................................................... Dammit! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 as for boost gauge i'm just using the standard one... which was working fine a week ago on the old turbo... so back to the drawing board. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4109880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM-R33 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Can some one answer wether if a turbo spins nicely, could it still some how be a dodgy highflow? Like what would cause it to not make boost? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR31 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 ahh well i just spent a few hours pulling the dump and cat off... i smashed all the honeycomb out and stuck the hose through it (closest thing i could find) and the nozzle came out the other end of it... so there's no restriction in that.. and the side of the cat i could see (catback side) was fine.Started the car up.... no difference... same thing............................................................... Dammit! sorry to hear that, did you check/try to tighten the comp wheel while you had the dump off? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnie32GTS4 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 i know this might sound a tad silly as its so bvious but have ya checked the exhaust wheel coz without one you wont be makin boost?? or ur exhaust wheel may be damaged so its not makin boost?? just a suggestion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBS206 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 What let go on the old turbo? Just the exhaust wheel? If the intake also let go, pull the FMIC off and inspect it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTAN Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 have you taken it out to ~5000rpm while driving it around? foot flat? i know in mine the stock gauge does not hit 0 when the car is actually making 0psi Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) I was actually in such a hurry to start it up with the cat hollowed out that i started bolting it back on and forget to look up at the exhaust wheel... but it will be the same as it was when it was off a day before... yes there is an exhaust wheel.... i've also though that... coz i had to drive home when i blew the old one and yeah kinda feels the same... just not pouring smoke out like it did with the blown one. The front wheel on the old turbo had 2 blades that were very slightly chipped... i'm not sure if that was done at the same time or if it was from ages ago... I don't think that would have done much though?? What do you's think?? I just can't accept that it's the turbo... it's 100km old (then previous car got written off) and looks immaculate/spins really well... the wheels aren't rubbing on the housing or anything... no noises... I'm at witts end with it I don't know whether to just take it to a shop or... Here's the turbo... Edited September 3, 2008 by JET-25L Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo32 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 that looks like a stock ceramic exhaust weel u shure its been hiflowed Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR31 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 the comp wheel doesnt look stock Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 Err no it doesn't... that's a steel wheel and you can tell it's been highflowed and bored out because both the wheels are way bigger than standard and on the standard turbo there is a raised edge around the exhaust wheel... whereas this one is level.. only way they can do it without changing housings. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR31 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 yeah was gunna say the turbine looks bigger as well, definatley not stock. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET-25L Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 Is it even possible for the exhaust wheel to be spinning on the shaft?? That can't even get tightened by the looks of it.. If it can I have no idea how to anyway.. If i try and spin the front one way and the back the other it doesn't work... and there's no up/down side to side play or anything like that so... Blocked intercooler from blades of the front of the old turbo???:s Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR31 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) Is it even possible for the exhaust wheel to be spinning on the shaft?? That can't even get tightened by the looks of it.. If it can I have no idea how to anyway.. If i try and spin the front one way and the back the other it doesn't work... and there's no up/down side to side play or anything like that so...Blocked intercooler from blades of the front of the old turbo???:s from what you said the old turbo comp wheel didnt break apart so that shouldnt have blocked up the cooler. oil from the old turbo can block it up if seals went. where does your boost gauge get its pressure signal from? before the cooler or after? no its not possible for the turbine/exhaust wheel to spin on the shaft, but it is possible for the comp wheel if not torqued/assembled correctly to spin on the shaft. Edited September 3, 2008 by NWR31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Smart Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 take the turbo off, and take it to someone who fixes them or can have a look. i would be able to suggest someone here in sydney/woolongong. but your in townsville. if the turbo spins freely when it was out of the car, and everything has gone back on correctly its either going to be something very very silly. or as people have said the turbo isnt right.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/234439-installed-new-turbo-and-cant-get-boost/page/2/#findComment-4110971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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