United Plus Petrol In A Skyline

[paulr33]

i fail to see how running it in an N/A makes any difference vs risk and "rusting"

fuel is fuel - do you think a turbocharged car has magical fuel lines and a fuel rails?

[dezz]

I think what he's trying to say is that he doesn't see the need to run 100RON fuel in an N/A car... Obviously there's N/A Hi-po cars, so if they're after a bit of a safety buffer from knock etc then I'm sure they'd run higher octane fuel....but your everyday N/A car doesn't need 100RON and isn't going to gain anything from it...

[paulr33]

yeah of course you wont gain anything, even an turbocharged car gains zero without retuning

but he is wording it as though your fuel lines well melt if you put 100ron with ethanol in an N/A car

[Adz]

Rust?...... pffttt

If you advance the timing on a na and run 100ron the performance will increase but turbo cars will gain the most from the benifits of high octain fuel.

[Jetdat]

my car has been tuned for 100 v-racing (it was a good power gain, just ask racepace) so i been running it for 2 years daily driver...

the car has not missed a beat.

Edited September 8, 2008 by Jetdat

[GTR-32U]

in all honesty I fail to see how its going to rust out the fuel lines.. Unless the car is sitting unstarted for months, But realistically the amount of ethanol present isnt that high at least not in V power racing.. That E85 fuel I would be more concerned about

[htial]

Ethanol doesn't rust out the fuel lines... ...I'm pretty sure that "opinion" came from people using Bio-Diesel containing Ethanol as the "active" ingredient, where it was cleaner than normal Diesel and would clean out the fuel systems... ...Which meant you'd have to keep changing the fuel filter until the fuel system was clean and the injectors would sometimes clog...

Ethanol can eat through the materials that are used for gaskets... ...Ie. paper, rubber, silicone, cork, felt, neoprene, nitrile rubber, fiberglass, or a plastic polymer...

Just like rubbing alcohol can eat away at the surface of a CD... ...Ethanol eats away at the gaskets depending on what they are made of...

And while ethanol won't do much to most metals... ...I think (I was never good at high school Chem) ethanol can eat away at iron... ...but it isn't technicality "rust" as such because I don't think it is classed as oxidation because most alloys that engine parts are made of are resistant to oxidation... ...the ethanol is just picking on the iron parts...

I hope that kinda makes sense... ...I haven't studied in about 10 years... ...So I could be totally wrong and talking out of my ass...

[MP_R33]

yeah of course you wont gain anything, even an turbocharged car gains zero without retuning

but he is wording it as though your fuel lines well melt if you put 100ron with ethanol in an N/A car

well my wording must be a bit misleading, sorry. The point im trying to get through is what dez stated.

You will gain nothing from running that fuel in a NA.

[_Ryan_]

isnt the issue that it corrodes rubber lines and injector o-rings?

[KURAUN]

isnt the issue that it corrodes rubber lines and injector o-rings?

like i said before 3 years using boost98 and yet to have any such issues

[~R33AzzA~]

I just went on the United website and they are bringing out a new fuel, Premium 100.

I think I will try this out when its avalible, depending on price.

Have a read>> http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/index.asp?pgID=65

[MP_R33]

yer i might also give it a try but the price isnt looking good haha

[SS8_Gohan]

hasn't united had a 100 fuel for a while??

[Swink33]

I have recently changed from BP Ultimate to Shell V Power Racing and it is definitely a superior fuel. Where as my car used to sometimes get knock up around 6,000rpm now I don't get any knock. It also makes the car feel more responsive.

It's good to see that United is bringing out a 100 RON fuel as I didn't want to have to go back to BP Ultimate!

Just thought I would let you all know Ashburton Shell sell V Power Racing for 1.69 a liter and the price hasn't changed at all over the past 3 weeks. Hence when ever its high price time the extra coin for V Power Racing is only about 9.5-15c a liter over regular fuel. What a bargain! I went to a Shell on Burwood Hwy and V Power Racing was like $1.85 a liter

[KURAUN]

hasn't united had a 100 fuel for a while??

Yeh i thought so to

when i was going up to canberra in albury/wodonga i filled up in the 100

[KURAUN]

stupid double posts

[Dhiv-Zilla]

Can you really put standard unleaded into a NA R33?

[paulr33]

you can put standard unleaded in an n/a and turbo skyline (Gts, GTST, heck even a GTR if you like)

in all cases the car will run, start and drive fine

once you load it up, it will detonate, the ecu will see this via the knock sensors and it will run a low octane timing map

so the car will be sluggish and perform like poo basically

[paulr33]

the turbo versions are more likely to detonate once you load them up however

so if you get decent normal unleaded you might get away with it in the N/A

[Bond]

So has anyone had a retune with the united 100 and compared it to united 98?? I have 2 servos near me that sell it and i wouldnt mind using it. It sells for the same price as 98