Oil Cooler

[bezender]

Hi all,

im gonna get an oil cooler for my 32...

looking to get one that i can use with my filter relocater (don't think its possible) or one that has a filter relocater.

anyone have recommendations?

cheers in advance

[Sambo33]

i was thinking about getting an oil cooler awhile back. i reakon get one with a thermostat, i read that if your oil runs too cool its bad for your motor. im guessing you planning on getting out on the track?

[bezender]

thinking about a bit of track action, but also concerned about distance driving in the warmer months.

my current relocater has a thermostat in it.... have noticed on a couple long trips and also after some sprirted driving the temp has climbed north of 90 degrees.

normal city driving, and short squirts in the hills, it stays on 80 degrees

def keen to have a thermostat in new setup

[hall sales]

i can prob mix and match fittings to plumb up to the B&M oil coolers and thermostats i sell.

pm me if you wish to discus

Edited September 7, 2008 by hall sales

[Nightcrawler]

I have a cheap-ass Just Jap one in my 34 and it does the job just nicely. Was under $300 from memory.

[CRoNic...]

When the oil heats up, it thins out... therefore, the cooler the oil, the thicker it is, meaning the more thickness, the more protection?

I didn't know running 'cool' oil in your engine is bad?

[bezender]

i can prob mix and match fittings to plumb up to the B&M oil coolers and thermostats i sell.

pm me if you wish to discus

PM sent

I have a cheap-ass Just Jap one in my 34 and it does the job just nicely. Was under $300 from memory.

nice.. that is about as much as i want to spend rly

one question how much oil would i expect to use for an oil change with the cooler in ?

[Fishpaste~]

one question how much oil would i expect to use for an oil change with the cooler in ?

just put in 6lts... its an RB right? =P

[bezender]

i'll just keep on putting oil in till i can see it cover the cams.....

total protection & lube

[bezender]

can i use something like this

or this

would i put the sandwich plate in at the motor.. or the relocated filter ??

[Nightcrawler]

I use just under 6 litres with the cooler.

I make sure I jack up the passenger side of the car nice and high to drain most of the oil out of the cooler on an oil change too. Then I unplug the cas and turn over the engine for 30 seconds before starting the car to prime everything up and refill the oil cooler. Works a treat!

No you are wrong Cronic - I didn't really understand your post - but the cooler your engine, the better it will run and the less chance of detonation. Hence an aftermarket radiator to help keep water cool, and an engine oil cooler is a necessity for an Skyline that gets driven on hot days imho. Regarding the engine thickness vs temperature - once your oil is over a certain 'warm up' temperature (around 100 degrees) it maintains its highest value viscocity. So it will maintain the same 40W viscocity (in say a 10W-40 oil like I use) whether the oil is 100 degrees or 150 degrees. Obviously keeping the engine oil near 100 degrees even in hot weather or when the car is being thrashed is highly desirable - hence why an oil cooler is a very good idea.

FYI I have been using Nulon 15W-50 oil for the last couple of services and have just changed to 10W-40 to see if there is any difference. As it turns out, my car likes it heaps better - less cam rattles at startup (and in fact at all times), and the engine seems to rev a bit smoother.

[Nightcrawler]

That link didn't work, but unfortunately you would have to get a different variety sandwich plate to connect to your motor, as all you want is an inlet and outlet - no hole in the middle for a filter. The normal style sandwich plate could then be used as a relocator. Best to buy a kit with a relocation kit provided - you need an extra hose and the capped off engine mount.

[bezender]

i have nfi with ebay links, so i have posted pics nao.

could i put T pieces at the relocated filter and run lines to the cooler, spose i would not get the benifit of a thermostat doing that

[bezender]

That link didn't work, but unfortunately you would have to get a different variety sandwich plate to connect to your motor, as all you want is an inlet and outlet - no hole in the middle for a filter. The normal style sandwich plate could then be used as a relocator. Best to buy a kit with a relocation kit provided - you need an extra hose and the capped off engine mount.

the relocation kit that i have has a plate like you describe at the motor... im not sure if we are saying the same thing here... but can i put the sandwich plate for the cooler at the end of the relocation kit and then screw the filter into the sandwich plate?

[CRoNic...]

i was thinking about getting an oil cooler awhile back. i reakon get one with a thermostat, i read that if your oil runs too cool its bad for your motor. im guessing you planning on getting out on the track?

I use just under 6 litres with the cooler.

I make sure I jack up the passenger side of the car nice and high to drain most of the oil out of the cooler on an oil change too. Then I unplug the cas and turn over the engine for 30 seconds before starting the car to prime everything up and refill the oil cooler. Works a treat!

No you are wrong Cronic - I didn't really understand your post - but the cooler your engine, the better it will run and the less chance of detonation. Hence an aftermarket radiator to help keep water cool, and an engine oil cooler is a necessity for an Skyline that gets driven on hot days imho. Regarding the engine thickness vs temperature - once your oil is over a certain 'warm up' temperature (around 100 degrees) it maintains its highest value viscocity. So it will maintain the same 40W viscocity (in say a 10W-40 oil like I use) whether the oil is 100 degrees or 150 degrees. Obviously keeping the engine oil near 100 degrees even in hot weather or when the car is being thrashed is highly desirable - hence why an oil cooler is a very good idea.

FYI I have been using Nulon 15W-50 oil for the last couple of services and have just changed to 10W-40 to see if there is any difference. As it turns out, my car likes it heaps better - less cam rattles at startup (and in fact at all times), and the engine seems to rev a bit smoother.

lol no worries, I was just reffering to the above comment in bold!

[Nightcrawler]

Ah sorry mate, now I get what you are saying.

There is some truth in that comment though - when talking about REALLY cold oil - hence why a thermo driven sandwich plate is best - then it stays closed until the oil is up to temp, then opens and runs the oil thru the cooler.

I don't have a thermostat setup, but wish I did.

[pkblade]

Just to add a thermostat isn't really necessary unless you live in a cold climate place or for some reason you run really thick visc oil, as it will still get up to temp in almost the same amount of time without it. Also, most thermos don't fully close they stay partially open so as to stop air pockets forming.

[bezender]

the relocation kit that i have has a plate like you describe at the motor... im not sure if we are saying the same thing here... but can i put the sandwich plate for the cooler at the end of the relocation kit and then screw the filter into the sandwich plate?

I'm still curious about this... because the sandwich plate basicaly mimics the shape of where the filter joins the block, does anyone see any issues with me fitting the sandwich plate to the end of the relocation kit, and then fitting the filter behind the sandwich plate

[Nightcrawler]

It is really hard to understand exactly what you are saying mate - can you draw some pics? If I were you I would take what you got to a workshop, and ask them what you need to complete the system.

At the end of the day, as long as the system is sealed and oil can flow freely, you can do pretty much what you want.

[bezender]

yeah, not the easiest thing to describe... I'll break out the crayons tonight