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Part of the yellow sticker is getting permits for everything, and to get a permit for my exhaust, I need to pass section LT4 of the VSB 14, the noise test. There are 6 licensed signatories in perth who are allowed to test this. One is in Gerraldton, one is in Busselton, the guy in Marangaroo said he doesn't do it anymore because he doesn't want to go to court, the guy in Ascot no longer works there, the guy in Malaga isn't answering his phone, and the guy in Como said its $280 and pretty hard to pass.

So...Anyone have a spare ceffy exhaust I can put on for a bit? There's a carton of beer in it for ya..... :D

please post the full conditions and details of this please??

what exhaust have you currently got?

what centre placed this condition upon the defect?

if it's just noise test, get an exhaust shop to place flanges / baffles between the mufflers

if your car is deemed too noisy by a DPI noise reader - then it's TOO noisy - even for you

just pay the labour and get your existing exhaust quietened down permanently so you can have a permanent fix to the problem - avoid more defecture - and have a pleasant drive in the future

as opposed to a bandaid to the problem

to the best of my knowledge permits cannot be a requirement - only a suggestion - nothing has gone thru state government regarding this

please provide more details

as for your idea - get your exhaust fixed and muffled. don't bother trying to track down a "spare" exhaust - there isn't one

No idea what the exhaust is currently. a 2.5 inch turbo back as far as I can see. There's a big "R32" written on there in white paint it looks like, but thats about it. Initially, east perth put this on the list of things to do: "obtain permits for all modifications". No other way to read that as far as I'm concerned. So I filled in the form like a good boy, handed it in, and instead of getting my permits, i was given the gift of a letter telling me I need engineers approval of all modifications. So, I went and found myself a signatory engineer to help me (which he did, and still is doing). So we handed in the engineers approval of all modifications. Next, I was given a letter that certain checklists in the VSB14 had to be filled out, along with a certification of LT4 noise test.

I always thought permits were never requirements either. But apparently they are. Well, atleast to me anyway it would seem. When I spoke to the signatory noise tester in Como, he (along with the engineer that is helping me) told me its actually quite hard to pass the static noise test (the one where the microphone is placed at a 45 degree angle a few metres away from the exhaust, and you rev it up to 2500rpm or 5000rpm or something like that, and it has to remain under 90dB). The signatory told me that if your car is slightly louder than stock, then you're gonna have a hard time passing the test.

I just figured I'd give this a shot, instead of forking out the 280 for the test, along with whatever its going to cost me to get my exhaust silenced.

I figured a stock ceffy exhaust was going to be bloody hard to come by, but figured there was no harm in trying. If I managed to get a stock exhaust, or even a stock sil or skyline exhaust (not sure if the fit on or not though), then I could just say that its the stock, and not have to get a noise test. There are that many people driving around with modified muffler and exhaust systems, so I figured they wouldn't pull me up JUST for the exhaust in the future. The only reason they're doing it to me now is that its just one of the things in the entire list of shit to fix on my car.

So yeah. in short. Can't get yellow off until i meet all the requirements. Can't meet all the requirements until I get all my permits. Can't get all my permits until I pass LT4, or atleast have a reason not to do it.

Any idea how much I'd be looking at, and who to talk to to have a exhaust shop silence mine? After doing so, can they guarantee that it will meet the requirements of 90dB?

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. It's been a long 4 and a half months of yellow stickerness...

Edited by scottrichards

i'm sorry to hear this, i personally suggest you install "baffle flanges" in your exhaust, this is easilly done they just "slot in" at your joinnig points

but you would have to speak to an exhaust shop about the intricacies of this ie: it's effectiveness and stuff

is your exhaust REALLY that incredibly loud???

if i may share a story with you

i had a yellow sticker this year

my car is perfect, completely clean order albeit highly midified

i got a yellow sticker and took the car over past the midland DPI

they defected me for minor things, the only thorn in my side was my window tint

because their light meter showed my tint as 28% light emittance

wich 29% is the OFFICIAL cutoff - they have to allow %6 discrepency from the 35% allowance if that makes sense

so i - rather than stress out and hate the world and yell and scream and think that "this was the end"

rather than remove my $350 worth of tint only to re-apply another $350 worth

..i rang the warwick centre and requested that i speak to the head examiner - and said that while i'm an intelligent guy i feel that im unsure about the previous test performed at midland - turns out the head examiner at warwick is a higher ranking officer than most vehicle examiners in WA and knows his stuff

he requested that i bring the car to him for a re-examination based on my dispute against the first exam

he looked my car over, saw that i had fixed outher things on the sheet, then got the light meter

his light meter read at 33% light emittance - meaning i was in the clear

he then sent a written warning to the midland centre telling them they have falsely told a customer of DPI that he has to remove his window tint and to calibrate their light meters

MORAL OF THE STORY

a condition of "get permits for all modifications" is NOT a condition.... WHAT modifications? just find them yourself and hope for the best? NO. dpi doesn't work that way

my advice is.. review your work order - if there's a condition stating you have to change your exhaust, then please do so - if not, why go to the effort?

get in touch with the warwick centre, explain that you have had the yellow sticker for 4 months and would just like his opinion, explain that one of the conditions is to "get permits for modifications" explain to him this doesn't explain WHAT this entails or what work needs to be carried out - explain to him that you're upset after 4 months and just want this ordeal over as quickly as possible

hopefully, you won't even have to bother with this scenario

the guy at warwick doesn't know about your exhaust - dont mention ANYTHING about your exhaust, if he wants to defect it - then ask for his advice on how to fix it.

the car was complied and registered with that exhaust in the past - no laws have changed - so you'll hopefull be ok

best of luck!

Still chasing an exhaust??? i

When I got my Ceffy imported I went straight to a exhaust shop

slipped them some cash($150) and got them to make me up a rear muffler section to keep things quiet when I took it over the pits.

It should bolt straight up to your system...take about 20 minutes to install and save you alot of hassles.

Is actualy the muffler off a BA falcon so is a 2.5" pipe from memory.

I sold my ceffy but I know Ken wont mind you borrow the stocky looking rear section as I am sure he prefers the 4" cannon

GImme a call on 041 994 6415

if you wan organise a pickup time.

Exhaust is located in Padbury(Joondalup)

Edited by SideWaysChef

if its noise just make up you own silencer, 2.5" diameter sheet metal(or watever your zorst tip is) , drill a 1inch hole in the center, have a mate or welder put 3-4 tac welds to hold it on the end of your zorst tip. then drill/cut them tac welds out after u pass it

Edited by Dan_J
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