Ebay Turbo Experiences.

[Travis Trayhern]

look i would not use one myself but this topic is about ppl and there experiences with them and if you going to ask them to post up about their car then go abuse them when they do because the used one of these turbos defeats the whole purpose, and writing they are just junk and not explain just don’t cut the cake i know they can be junk but some ppl have had good experience with them, and i do take my hat off for the ppl that are the ginnypigs for these things. But im thanking the ppl that have posted even though they just get pushed back down after.

and we want to inform these ppl that want to buy their $200 turbo of eBay, if we all just say they are junk it’s not really solving the problem and this topic will always keep popping up because every young pimple faced teenager who just bought his skyline wants that magic 600hp car.

by all means post up your experiences but don’t put down the ppl that are using them that post, if they think its fine that ok it’s their problem not yours.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Travis Trayhern

[raZ1911]

'snot' on people often?

lol i like that.

[rev210]

look i would not use one myself..

i know they can be junk but some ppl have had good experience with them.....

if we all just say they are junk it’s not really solving the problem ....

and this topic will always keep popping up because every young pimple faced teenager who just bought his skyline wants that magic 600hp car......

by all means post up your experiences but don’t put down the ppl that are using them that post, if they think its fine that ok it’s their problem not yours.....

Some of the things you have said here indicate that this thread is another waste of space on the forums.

The fact that the forum has a sticky section (forced induction guide) covering the fundamentals of basic and cheap upgrades that are 'proven' means threads like these distract the noobs into debating the reinvention of the wheel so to speak.

We have plenty of areas to read that give the same answers to the same old questions and without the agro. Use the search button.

Mods,

I think we have had eleventy billion threads like this. Can we do the same to these as we have to the 'what time will my car run?....' style threads and rename them with something and lock them?

Sorry mate but, this thread is not informative nor is it contributing anything other than wasteland style bitching.

Think up another topic not already covered and start again

As it was once said long ago;

In before the lock

[The Dan]

look i would not use one myself but this topic is about ppl and there experiences with them and if you going to ask them to post up about their car then go abuse them when they do because the used one of these turbos defeats the whole purpose, and writing they are just junk and not explain just don’t cut the cake i know they can be junk but some ppl have had good experience with them, and i do take my hat off for the ppl that are the ginnypigs for these things. But im thanking the ppl that have posted even though they just get pushed back down after.

and we want to inform these ppl that want to buy their $200 turbo of eBay, if we all just say they are junk it’s not really solving the problem and this topic will always keep popping up because every young pimple faced teenager who just bought his skyline wants that magic 600hp car.

by all means post up your experiences but don’t put down the ppl that are using them that post, if they think its fine that ok it’s their problem not yours.

If it looks like a horse.....

If it gallops like a horse....

If it whinnies like a horse...

If it craps like a horse....

I don't care who says it's a rabbit....it's a horse godammit!

People are only saying they are junk - BECAUSE THEY ARE JUNK.

You can't say 'hey, tell me what you think about this stuff....but I only want to hear positive remarks' coz you'll go around in life constantly disappointed because no one ever told you not to do something.

The world is full of good advise and bad advise. The wise man doesn't always give the good advise but he always knows when he hears it.

[Vik]

You have to admit there are some pretty shonky things on eBay. But if you can find a Genuine Seller on eBay that stock Garret or GREDDY turbo's and sell them for cheap because they cut out the middle man, and dont have a shop front which they need to rent, so the money they save they pass down to the customers.

Just a matter of looking for the right Seller.

MRXTCZ

[Damo_c]

Sorry mate but, this thread is not informative nor is it contributing anything other than wasteland style bitching.

Think up another topic not already covered and start again

I think this is a great topic, alot of people including myself have been shot down for even using ebay and turbo in the one sentence. Yes it is mostly the new forum members that ask these questions cos they want more power strait away so the turbo is what they look at and i think almost everyone here bought a skyline cos they new the potential of what they could do, not cos of there fuel economy. I have been watching this thread since it started due to the fact that i think getting a hi flow done for my r33 is ridicusly expensive compared to buying a new turbo kit. I got quoted 1700-1800 for mine to be hi flowed, its not that much of a difference to buying a new turbo kit for at least 2200, so if by finding a turbo off ebay for under 500 bucks and finding out that some people have had good expereinces is a help to me, but then on the other hand people that have had bad luck is also helpful to me. Some people dont have the cash to be able to save 2200+ cos they have other things going on in there lives whether its cos they have a mortgage or dont earn a lot. Honestly so many people are so quick to jump to the conclusion that if it came off ebay its shit.

Sorry mate but its people like you that make other companies make soooo much money cos you would be the type of person, to me anyway, to say dont buy this name brand cos they dont sell much but buy this brand cos they sell heaps.

Just think what wouldve happened if people said garret, apexi etc were shit when they first started, we would be all driving around in NA cars.

Please keep this topic going and please people, please tell your experieces.

[W0rp3D]

If it looks like a horse.....

If it gallops like a horse....

If it whinnies like a horse...

If it craps like a horse....

I don't care who says it's a rabbit....it's a horse godammit!

Maybe its a good looking lama?

[rev210]

Sorry mate but its people like you that make other companies make soooo much money cos you would be the type of person, to me anyway, to say dont buy this name brand cos they dont sell much but buy this brand cos they sell heaps.

Cheap , fast , reliable.

Pick two.

That is the law for performance cars.

I'm not sorry but, you need to go read the sticky threads. You will then realise why these threads are arse.

When starting a thread like this;

You are not suddenly revealing a new and exciting world the skyline/perfromance car community has no idea about.

You are not a technology pioneer.

You are a in fact a Noob.

Actually, I made a suggestion about turbo options for your gtst that are just as cheap but, far better than the S&*T on ebay.

These options have been around for a long time too.

It's people who advocate non-balanced turbos who make money for engine rebuilders. Whats going to cost you more? A $2000 turbo that treated well should outlast the motor or a $500 turbo solution from dodge'o china that lunches your engine and gets you a $3,000 - $6,000 engine repair bill. Oh and sees you get toasted by a vanilla standard turbo gtst on the track.

The moral of this story is use the search button and ask the right questions. Plenty of info already here, please take the time to read it.

[Damo_c]

You are a in fact a Noob.

It's people who advocate non-balanced turbos who make money for engine rebuilders. Whats going to cost you more? A $2000 turbo that treated well should outlast the motor or a $500 turbo solution from dodge'o china that lunches your engine and gets you a $3,000 - $6,000 engine repair bill. Oh and sees you get toasted by a vanilla standard turbo gtst on the track.

The moral of this story is use the search button and ask the right questions. Plenty of info already here, please take the time to read it.

How wrong you are, the moral of the story is to find what experiences people have had. Id love to be able to buy a cheap ass turbo to do what most of the people on this forum have paid a shit load more money to do, if it means buying a cheap turbo off ebay to do it, then so be it, but first id like to know what experiences people have had to do this.

If YOU were to use the search button yourself you would realise that they are old threads and people just got flamed when they wrote in those sections. This is a new subject where people can tell there expereices in the hope without getting flamed by people like yourself they could learn. New members are afraid to start a thread such as this because it would get closed cos of what you have said where i think it should be kept open so people then can relate there own experiences whether good or bad it shouldnt matter. People learn as they grow, that should be enough to allow this thread to stay alive. For once id like to see this stay around so people learn from others. Not only the good but the bad.

If i could buy a turbo that lasted the next 3 years for $150 in the hope that it would keep performing, that would allow me to save enough to buy a BRAND name which has a guarantee to last - with the extras needed to run a car at over 250kw which is what most people would like id be more then happy for that happen, but id like to know what there experiences were before buying, thats why i hope people keep telling there experiences.

[Travis Trayhern]

yes ppl if you have done it post it if you havent keep you trap shut unles you are writing a valid question keep all opinions to your self, also it said on the first page i think about getting them balanced befor install by a turbo shop just to be on the safe side would like to hear more on this and if anyone has had a failure after this has been done?

and yes there is alot of history on the ebay turbos when you search but like what was previously said alot has changed over the years and most of the threads are old.

[rev210]

How wrong you are, the moral of the story is to find what experiences people have had. Id love to be able to buy a cheap ass turbo to do what most of the people on this forum have paid a shit load more money to do, if it means buying a cheap turbo off ebay to do it, then so be it, but first id like to know what experiences people have had to do this.

If YOU were to use the search button yourself you would realise that they are old threads and people just got flamed when they wrote in those sections. This is a new subject where people can tell there expereices in the hope without getting flamed by people like yourself they could learn. New members are afraid to start a thread such as this because it would get closed cos of what you have said where i think it should be kept open so people then can relate there own experiences whether good or bad it shouldnt matter. People learn as they grow, that should be enough to allow this thread to stay alive. For once id like to see this stay around so people learn from others. Not only the good but the bad.

If i could buy a turbo that lasted the next 3 years for $150 in the hope that it would keep performing, that would allow me to save enough to buy a BRAND name which has a guarantee to last - with the extras needed to run a car at over 250kw which is what most people would like id be more then happy for that happen, but id like to know what there experiences were before buying, thats why i hope people keep telling there experiences.

You might notice that like a few blokes I was one of the first to start on this forum, 2002. That's how long I have been around skylines and like lots of guys have owned and modified a few.

Also,You did notice I have had experience with the 'cheap ass turbo' ?

These are actually as old as the hills.

It's called getting some budget machining done to your turbo and DIY backyard building a turbo and skimping on the balancing part by not visiting a turbo specialist except to buy some wheels to fit to (In the days I was around it) sometimes old diesel turbos.

Back then you could get the bits you needed for sometimes under $100.

It's just being made popular now buy the chinese doing it in their backyard for you.

Look , I hear what you are trying to say.

I also understand that you 'want' to hear something.

Everyone loves a bargain it's true. And there are good examples of saving a few quid on where and what you buy from experiences on this forum thoughtfully added to sticky sections. Not just turbo's mind you.

I'm not blowing my own trumpet here but, I have come up with a couple of bargain mods that I have shared on the forum. Take for instance possibly one of the cheapest being the 'rev210's $5 intake' mod.

The MASSIVE difference as to why people don't cop a flaming is that there is at least some decent reasoning behind 'why' it works.

Take this $150 turbo though. Knowing that you only have $150 from which you have to make a turbo and make some money so you can keep making turbos and keep advertising the fact. Just how good do you think you can make one?

Do you think it's rational to expect it to be as reliable as a factory or aftermarket turbo or greater value? IF so tell us why?

- what differences do you think there are in manufacture? Perhaps you think there is none? Do you want to believe that?

Do you think it's rational to expect it to perform as well as a factory or aftermarket turbo (considering the thought that goes into matching components)?

If you provide the answers to those sorts of questions positively then you are on the right track to starting a 'good' thread.

On the other hand we can handle you wanting to say x turbo worked on my car and made more power than stock but, it's a laggy peice of crap. There is a sticky thread or two for you called " RB25/20/26/30...turbo upgrade.."

I honestly don't know if you have read them all but, the question being asked here is answered very well by someone listing the mods to thier car (including E-bay turbo) and posting up performance numbers for people to compare.

As the thread question itself doesn't want negative comments it really is a waste of space becuase those threads give you the best answer in figures from real experience.

Your last parragraph is the most revealing of all. If you want to save some money on running the car I strongly suggest you keep the stock turbo on till you can actually afford to run a bigger one. If the $150 turbo were capable of a very laggy 230rwkw there is a nice expensive list of supporting mods you are going to need not to mention the addtional wear and tear on everything from drivetrain to tyres you will need to budget for.

The motto is in for a penny in for a pound. Performance cars do not equal saving money or concepts like cheap.

When there isn't a moron behind a cars setup, money wins.

Want a mod for $150 that will help you save for the next 3 yrs is a great title for a new thread though. My first post will be a suggestion that you buy a bicycle

I do actually care about my fellow skyline community members and particularly for the guys who are trying to do things on a budget. The last thing they need is to have someone piss in their pocket about some magical dream turbo for $150 that will only deliver dissapointing performance and maybe even kill thier abillity to own a skyline when the motor gets lunched. So I will continue to be a prick about it for the sake of those guys. For the blokes who have a few quid and don't give a crap if the china turbo kills thier bunky hack you don't need to spell anything out to them. They have the money and it's usually a good source of entertainment. My experiences around cheap turbos heralds from days of turbo charging peice of crap cars and in some cases the sole objective was to thrash them to a miserable end anyway. We even used PVC piping for intercooler plumbing we were that cheap.

How about I start a thread about the PVC pipe alternative to metal intercooler pipes? Same concept. If you do a search on the forum you will actually find something in a thread about it too (I've posted about it at least twice from memory).

take it in good humour and move on

Edited September 27, 2008 by rev210

[krzysiu]

Lol my friend bought one of these for his Honda civic turbo conversion, it didnt even last the tune before the turbo blew up. He then bought a Garrett turbo ( a real turbo)

So yes they are garbage, everyone will tell you that. Travis, relax yourself and stop being a keyboard warrior "Snot"ing people you dont know is not a good thing because your the one that might be in a wheelchair in the end of it

[rev210]

yes ppl if you have done it post it if you havent keep you trap shut unles you are writing a valid question keep all opinions to your self, also it said on the first page i think about getting them balanced befor install by a turbo shop just to be on the safe side would like to hear more on this and if anyone has had a failure after this has been done?

and yes there is alot of history on the ebay turbos when you search but like what was previously said alot has changed over the years and most of the threads are old.

We have a few threads already called the RB20/25/26 turbo upgrade, that give you the answers you need.

MODS reckon we close this one up now it's done it's work.

[Bond]

I dont see the big deal with asking questions on here even if you havent searched (not saying u should not search first). If other "long term" forum users dont want to read about it because they have 1000 times b4 then dont click on the thread...pretty simple.

Sometimes i search and the question hasn't been asked for 1 year or even 6 months. I want to ask it again because there are new members on here all the time and they may have just experienced this problem but never thought to post anything about it or dig up an old thread.

Anyway thats enough of my rant!

James

PS:Dont buy a chinese ebay turbo.

[rev210]

I dont see the big deal with asking questions on here even if you havent searched (not saying u should not search first). If other "long term" forum users dont want to read about it because they have 1000 times b4 then dont click on the thread...pretty simple.

Sometimes i search and the question hasn't been asked for 1 year or even 6 months. I want to ask it again because there are new members on here all the time and they may have just experienced this problem but never thought to post anything about it or dig up an old thread.

Anyway thats enough of my rant!

James

PS:Dont buy a chinese ebay turbo.

Hi James,

The bid deal is that the forum keeps record of the threads so you can find them wih the search button. In two years time you will be able to find and reffer to old threads you may have started that are of value to new guys and gals.

The fact is that the guys with experience can't be stuffed repeating themselves. So you are left with the pool of ignorance to bleat on and take up archive space woth dribble.

If the storage wasn't an issue we could create a 'day care thread' for noobs to do this sort of running off at the mouth.

What pisses people off here is that some noobs left to thier own devices will populate a forum in seconds with eleventy billion questions that are all the same.

Most of what you should take time to konw about your skyline is stickied along with the key threads.

If that isn't good enough for you and you just have to type things, go to some other forum that wll let you clog it up and just 'read' this one.

The forum is something we are priveledged to have and it's costs some dedicated blokes time and money to keep running, give that some respect

[jonesl]

Travis Trayhern.. Im glad you got my question.. thanks for clearing it up for otherss...well trying anyway.

I went for a stock rb20 turbo, Highflowed... it hits 10psi just under 4000rpm...pulls hard all the way to redline..

still wanting more power though.. but who doesnt.

cheers guys for your input. .. Im goin to give one of these cheap turbos a go one day.. just for first hand exprience.