paulr33 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 datalogit is still the mainstream supported 3rd party powerfc software that widely used. andre is still working a lot on fc tune and he is also make a hand controller to do all the work, to replace the datalogit box and the legit apexi hand controller but its still work in progress. there is no cheap magic solution and basically datalogit is the only way to go Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5354576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Cheap magic solution? I was talking in regards to using CoPilot with an existing FC Datalogit box. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5354600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 yeah sorry i got a bit sidetracked, datalogit all the way Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5354625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bk_ Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Is anyone interested in a working powerfc interface box? It works with copilot, fc-edit and fc-pro (power excel software). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5422214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battery Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Is anyone interested in a working powerfc interface box?It works with copilot, fc-edit and fc-pro (power excel software). Im after one. is it a datalogit? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5422383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 yeah there is a new box just on the market that i have been lucky to test and check out if you are interested its on their website www.fc-hako.com and ill be adding it to the powerfc FAQ this week Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5422802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 and I could use this fc-hako to change fuel maps between 98 and E85? I am right in thinking there is no other way to change fuel maps other than hook up a PC to the powerFC? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5422825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 yes you can use fc-hako to change maps, just like you can use datalogit do it as well yes there is no way to change maps other than using a laptop/PC and the PowerFC this is becuase the powerfc only ever has one active map at any one time you could, certainly bend your tune to suit E85, but it is far from a complete map change ie bend the injector correction and using Temp IGN/INJ to run e85 but i wouldnt want to use it as a daily requirement it depends on how much different the e85 tune is. is it compeltely different or just a bend of the same 98 tune? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5423175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bk_ Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Guys, If you have any questions about the FC-HAKO, please post them here. I'm responsible for implementing the complete hardware interface solution that works with all PowerFCs, and works with official and third party software including analog input support for both (thanks to kashima for fc-pro information!). It includes USB support directly, so it doesn't use RS232 signals (+/- 12V) for serial. Thanks to Paul for willing to test out the device in the flesh, and to include it in the next update of the FAQ. Anyway... it's been an interesting journey and experience to produce and implement this long sought-after piece of hardware for a reasonable price. It was a huge challenge and it is no wonder that quite a few people attempted or believed they could do it but failed. BK. (fc-hako.com) Edited August 31, 2010 by _bk_ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5423859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battery Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 hey Paul just quickly would you say this FC-HAKO match's the performance and usability of the FC datalogit? hey _bk_ is they any discount for SAU members? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5423878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROXIMITY Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 What he said ^^^ ? were is this software downloadable from, can i look at it before buying the dongle thing ? Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 the fc-hako cable is the same as the datalogit cable. they both plug into the powerfc and then plug into your laptop or PC and away you go be sure to note fc-hako is a cable solution and datalogit is a cable and software solution in the testing i have done it works the same and performs well and lets you use a number of applications the cable is on their website as per bk's post and ill be adding it to the powerfc FAQ this weekend with some photos etc there are photos on the site as well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 These should sell very well at that price! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveO74 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Guys forgive me for going a bit off topic here but I am also going down the E85 road after my datalogit turns up and although a probably stupid question do you need the Hand Controller as well if using the lappy to switch maps??? My brand new h/c is not compatible with my PFC so I have to source an older version one Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I do love a nice tight hako. good product and very well positioned price wise. cheaper than a datalogit but still very useful. good idea to just focus on the hardware and let people use their own software. should be a winner. I might add one to the bits and pieces. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Guys forgive me for going a bit off topic here but I am also going down the E85 road after my datalogit turns up and although a probably stupid question do you need the Hand Controller as well if using the lappy to switch maps???My brand new h/c is not compatible with my PFC so I have to source an older version one nope, you don't need the hand controller if using FC datalogit or fchako to tune and switch maps. these products (and a laptop and software) can do everything the HC can do, and more. so there is no need for a hand controller if you buy and use this product. the only thing the HC is better at is as a permanently mounted monitory tool. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5424961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveO74 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Cool, thanks Richard Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5425084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bk_ Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 were is this software downloadable from, can i look at it before buying the dongle thing ? This is a hardware-only solution. Software compatibility guide is on the website, under the technical tab. There's only one piece of hardware on offer. Everything else mentioned are either competitors or vapour-ware. BK. (fc-hako.com) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5425832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 happy to test one, i use mine about 6 or 7 times a week. Would be happy to on sell them if they work as well as the fc-datalogit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5425975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 hi trent ill bring my fc-hako to the sau vic meeting in sep for the presentation if you can make it you can check it out then Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/236539-apexi-pfc-copilot-and-pc-interface/page/2/#findComment-5426413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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