P Plater Cars.

[Deanis.]

it's been a hell of alot of research, car searching inspections & now i'm truly stumped. being on red p's i can't seem to have anything of decent power but these to pick it up a bit. always been a big fan of both but after checking them out i'm really unsure. wondering what you guys think.

yes i know topics of these cars a plentiful but i haven't found one for these two specific models as of yet.

if anyone has or has had any experience with either or both please help me out. it's been ages in getting it all sorted out & i want to finally buy this thing haha.

[jakez88]

haven't ever experienced both but i reckon if u care about space or weight get the r34...if not get the autech s15. plus i've heard good things about the autech.

[Deanis.]

what have you heard about the autech?

[Johnny]

s15's are an amazingly sexy shape stock. r34 gtt's are quite ugly unless they have the nismo kit and look quite anorexic.

sr20 tuned will make some nice power but must rev and those motors are prone to popping rocker arms and scorring camshafts and possibly lodging in the timing chain.

This is from personal experience with my old s15.

the NA r33 i owned was the most reliable thing ever! the rb25 is a torquey motor with bigger capacity and after 20,000kms of thrashing everyday of its life it ran perfectly and never broke down.

Both cars drive fine though; the skyline has lighter steering while the s15 is a little firmer but feels steady.

My verdict is the s15: only 4 cylinders so better fuel economy better stock looks.

[bozodos]

I know someone who has an S15 Autech, the S15 looks fkn hot, and has the exlusivity factor but don't expect it to be anything resembling quick, i'm talking like this thing gets outpaced by a bog stock VN V6.

Hard choice, but I'd personally go the R34.

[Deanis.]

thanks for the feedback guys.

i'd be driving fairly normally. sure maybe fang it every now & then a little but pretty much just look seeing as turbos are out of the picture, let alone any performance upgrades. it's almost like they want every p-plate jap car being a ricer. the s15 has the looks, a decnt engine but i wouldn't exactly be trying to race a stock anyway. it's just all class IMO. all they really need are some nice rims, a bit of a drop & a catback.

the 34 would be getting the kit, catback, rims & a drop, led tails, & possibly a wing depending on the one i decide to buy (looking at two atm).

insurance seems to be the thing that really splits it down the middle though. with the s15 at $6k whilst the r34 is $4.7k

as i said i like them both ALOT & they each have pros & cons. just making that final decision without having regrets is the hard part haha.

s15- pros;

smaller engine = less fuel $$$.

looks good as is.

s15- cons;

pretty damn small.

not as much power.

quite high insurance costs.

r34- pros;

bigger.

more powerful.

less on insurance.

r34- cons;

chews worse than s15.

not as good looking stock.

would end up buying visual mods for it then, knowing me that will turn to an additcion.

with the fuel thing i'm aware that neither are very fuel efficient but if i cared about that i'd probably have gotten a small car. stuff that.

also, has anyone had any experience with top secret imports in blacktown?

[jakez88]

DAMN!!! paying insurance around $4k-$6k sucks ass hard!!! didn't know it was that much!! if i was in ur position that would turn me off on getting a import all together.

if i was in ur position i'd just get something else cause in 2 years of paying for insurance u could by a turbo r32, r33 or even a turbo 34! sucks to be on red p's.

[vinnie32GTS4]

Dude go get some different quotes from different insurance places as that is rediculous...Im 18 and im paying $1600 a year for an R32 GTS4 which is turbo and my excess is $900..im with shannons.

[R31Nismoid]

How did you get shannons under 25?

[Deanis.]

yeah it's opretty rough but what can i say? i've always loved imports. when dad used to take me the the supercars i told him the skylines would be winning if they didn't make that bs rule haha. that ended the dad takes young dean to supercars races era pretty quick =P

you know, when you really like something you'll try to justify even the dumbest prices haha.

what other insurance places will cover an 18yo p-plater? the only place i've tried is just car as it seemed like the only real option. oh & nrma online quote on an r34 series 2 was $11463. i'm not lying or exaggerating either. after that quote i just thought to myself. WTF!? the car was gonna cost me 18990 yet they want well over half of that per year? plus $593 rego? hah!

note i'm actually on L's like 4 houirs left but was banned from dad's car coz of a fight & mum doesn't want me driving hers. too worried about her clutch. i showed her i can do all the stuff fine but hey, it's her baby haha.

yeah i heard shannons is only over 25s & assumed it was mainly classic car style insurance as in you drive it weekends only type of stuff. i'd be using this as a daily.

[Granthem]

f**k paying that insurance for something thats no more powerful then a commodore.

I think your silly to buy one with insurance like that. Actually you would be past silly...

[teamtoken]

i think your overpaying on your insurance dude, have a look around

as for cars

autech s15 has the same amount of power as the stock s15 we got in aus. which isnt that much to write home about. plus youll pay a premium for them and thats if you can even find one.

dont kno about an NA 34 though

best of luck anyway

[NoFX_Hardcore]

F*ck that mate. Friend just got a $30000 S2000 insured for alot less than that and he's on his p's.

My advice is to wait til you're off your p's and by then you'll be able to afford a R34 GTR!

Buy a barina.

Edited September 28, 2008 by NoFX_Hardcore

[Deanis.]

F*ck that mate. Friend just got a $30000 S2000 insured for alot less than that and he's on his p's.

My advice is to wait til you're off your p's and by then you'll be able to afford a R34 GTR!

Buy a barina.

i'd rather put a fork through my junk than buy a barina =|

i agree with the insurance. found a way around that now though. probably go r34. just for headroom. i'm just over 6ft & there isn't so much space in the silvia. like i think the interior is better. the handling feels more precise but overall room isn't so great. pretty much a 3 seater with me driving haha.

[Granthem]

Yeh R34's benefit interior wise alot by the triple cluster.

Search around on here and you will pick one up for around $150 bucks. Then wire in some of your own gauges (oil pressure, volts, air/fuel etc) and it will spice up the R34 interior for a few humdred bucks.

The NA 34s look stupid because there is a big empty patch in the middle of the dash

[n/aTurbo]

heres a thought,

go riding round with no insurance if you got the chops for it lol.

[Deanis.]

Yeh R34's benefit interior wise alot by the triple cluster.

Search around on here and you will pick one up for around $150 bucks. Then wire in some of your own gauges (oil pressure, volts, air/fuel etc) and it will spice up the R34 interior for a few humdred bucks.

The NA 34s look stupid because there is a big empty patch in the middle of the dash

amen to that. reckon you could do it DIY or better to get someone else?

[Deanis.]

heres a thought,

go riding round with no insurance if you got the chops for it lol.

considering the number of scum around where i live, don't get me wrong alot are very nice people but probably more are idiots. i don't think that'd be a great idea. especially the old finish work, walk out to the carpark & you're walking home scenario...

[Deanis.]

f**k paying that insurance for something thats no more powerful then a commodore.

I think your silly to buy one with insurance like that. Actually you would be past silly...

not to mention has better brakes, suspension, LOOKS. etc etc. i know what you mean =/

stupid, stupid laws. just set the insurance better. $1153 premium. much better. think all up it's 1k if something happens?

[Deanis.]

chose the r34 =]