Tuned..... 1002hp R34 T88gk 18cm Monster!

[GTRNUR]

Great thread except for the cat fights...

So is this car going to be raced, or is it a purpose built dyno weapon? If it does hit the track it will need full cage and chute i'd imagine.

For a daily driver did anyone think for a moment about the fuel consumption of 6 x 1600cc injectors...

I had a thought about the issue with dyno comps and light ramp rates. While talking with some tuners at a training event last time i was down south someone mentioned the issue of ramp rates being so light that some of their turbo dyno comp cars were barely achieving full boost for their runs. Where as this wasnt an issue of course for the supercharger croud.

I've read of some of the pro-mod drag cars in the US that use a nitrogen gas injection anti-lag system to pre-spool the turbo onto boost. As its not dependant on engine load this could be done to overcome lack of dyno/engine load during a power run. Basically they have a nozzel in the header before the turbine housing and inject nitrogen gas briefly to spool the turbo onto boost. The moment the gas is in the header it expands greatly because of the heat and eliminates lag. I'd imagine all the top dyno comp cars are running engine management capable of turning on a solenoid at say 60% load and above 5000 rpm, and off again at say 80-90% load and perhaps above 7000 rpm, thereby allowing the engine to settle and run on just turbo to max rpm. Just a thought...

[Swiper the Fox]

we ran athids car on RE customs dyno the other night and it came up within a poofteeth of mine.... they dyno operator told athid it should be run in 4th (car was s15) and it ran 240rwkw..... ran it at re's and it ran 280 in 5th on 19"s with wheelspin... then ran it in 4th and it made 259rwkw.

not trying to wind you up here but your example is a little poor...everytime ive ran my car on a dyno in the night air its made more power...say 10kw minimum. Autosalon is run during the day and the conditions/air is not ideal compared to at night at workshop. Say you take that 10kw off the night reading...the dyno was out by 9kw!

Real world example...my car ran 467kw at Croydon the night before NAS last year...the next day with hotter more humid conditions combined with fuel/exhaust gas in the air it rolled 450kw. Was it because the dyno/ramp rates were wrong...no its because the conditions were not ideal for the car to perform to its optimum.

All cars in dyno comps are supposed to be run in 4th or 5th depending on which gear is 1:1 eg 5 speed in 4th or 6 speed in 5th

Edited October 14, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[2rismo]

All cars in dyno comps are supposed to be run in 4th or 5th depending on which gear is 1:1 eg 5 speed in 4th or 6 speed in 5th

The role of a professional operator at a dyno competition is to eliminate as many variables as possible. The thing people forget is that a dyno is a scientifically designed and constructed piece of precision equipment and by far and away the biggest variable is THE CAR ON THE ROLLERS!

You can regulate tyre pressures, gear ratios, ramp rates, dyno modes, corrections etc all you want but the biggest variable will ALWAYS be the car.

Period.

[tenji`]

yeah everyone was out, we ran athids car on RE customs dyno the other night and it came up within a poofteeth of mine.... they dyno operator told athid it should be run in 4th (car was s15) and it ran 240rwkw..... ran it at re's and it ran 280 in 5th on 19"s with wheelspin... then ran it in 4th and it made 259rwkw. If it had had been done properly athid would have taken out 4cyl turbo EASY... (LOVE THE BULLSHIT ABOUT HIGHER READINGS IN A LOWER GEAR)

DARRENs supra from ran well below its hp level (400hp off on sat) until sunday when it got tweaked to suit and rocketed to top position... only to be outdone by GAS on the last run of the day.

Angelos r33 GTR from racepace ran mid 314rwkw.....well down so it was pretty much all workshops with odd readings..... not foul play just poor operators.

shit even a R32 GTR pulled 140.... talk about sad..

What GTR ran 140kws?

this is the list...

Cars at the event

Name Car Name Model Class NOS Boost Power

1. GAS Motorsport GAS2JZ Toyota Supra Straight 6 No Turbo 958.2 kW

1285 HP

2. Darren Maxwell CDUKTV Toyota Supra Straight 6 No Turbo 874.6 kW

1172.9 HP

3. Jodi Toneguzzi MIS52J Toyota Supra Straight 6 No Turbo 626.2 kW

839.7 HP

4. Sean Parsons HVDFLU Subaru WRX 4 Yes Turbo 564.9 kW

757.5 HP

5. Gas Motorsport GASR34 Nissan GTR Vspec Straight 6 No Turbo 525.8 kW

705.1 HP

6. James Vosilaitis LOSNIT Nissan Skyline Straight 6 No Turbo 465.3 kW

624 HP

7. Sean Parsons HVDFLU Subaru WRX 4 No Turbo 444.6 kW

596.2 HP

8. Michael Jackson RDHZRD Statesman V8 Small Block No Turbo 433.5 kW

581.3 HP

9. Josh Cook VXPSI Holden VX Senator V8 Small Block No Charged 427.2 kW

572.9 HP

10. HALTECH GTR35 NISSAN V6 No Turbo 364.2 kW

488.4 HP

11. Damien FINEVY Holden VY V8 Small Block No Charged 321.9 kW

431.7 HP

12. Angelo Panagiotidis QKO256 Nissan R33 GTR Straight 6 No Turbo 314.4 kW

421.6 HP

13. Polo Kong Bour STIKLR Lancer EVO 5 4 No Turbo 310.8 kW

416.8 HP

14. Darrell Leemhuis BOOSTED Holden Rodeo 4 No Turbo 283.8 kW

380.6 HP

15. John Papadopoulos TRACKCAR Nissan S14 4 No Turbo 261.8 kW

351.1 HP

16. A.R WCA321 Nissan S15 4 No Turbo 241.8 kW

324.3 HP

17. Alan Calleja (Hidden) Nissan R33 GTST Straight 6 No Turbo 239.3 kW

320.9 HP

18. Peak Lo REDWON Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 224.6 kW

301.2 HP

19. Timothy Khuu TKEVO Lancer EVO 4 No Turbo 209.2 kW

280.5 HP

20. Shane Souttel PURESX Nissan 180SX 4 No Turbo 198.4 kW

266.1 HP

21. Joe Namnoum TEMTME Mazda RX7 Series 6 Rotary No Turbo 198.3 kW

265.9 HP

22. Miguel Vitug QZB097 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 193.9 kW

260 HP

23. Jeff Lim TCY433 Honda CRX 4 No Turbo 190.3 kW

255.2 HP

24. Josh Odgers FQ400 Lancer EVO 8 4 No Turbo 188 kW

252.1 HP

25. Adam Qemal UOB442 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 187.5 kW

251.4 HP

26. Alex Des-Forges WAB521 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 187.2 kW

251 HP

27. Renee REEEEN Nissan Silvia 4 No Turbo 186.8 kW

250.5 HP

28. Daniel Boyle SUJUGO Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 182.7 kW

245 HP

29. Francesco NXTPLZ Nissan 200sx 4 No Turbo 180.7 kW

242.3 HP

30. No Pic Jimmy Thai USA112 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 179.4 kW

240.6 HP

31. Simon Mitchell MMM55H Proton 4 No Turbo 175.8 kW

235.8 HP

32. Colin Yuen SINNA Subaru Forester 4 No Turbo 161.3 kW

216.3 HP

33. Adam Bailey SILV1A Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 160.8 kW

215.6 HP

34. Eddie He UXA566 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 159.7 kW

214.2 HP

35. Willy Lin WIC550 Audi S3 4 No Turbo 156.6 kW

210 HP

36. Gary Tanti ONIICE Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 155.4 kW

208.4 HP

37. Antoni FATREX Subaru WRX 4 No Turbo 151.1 kW

202.6 HP

38. No Pic Ferah G MZTRBO Nissan R34 GTT Straight 6 No Turbo 149.5 kW

200.5 HP

39. Richard IVTECI Honda Integra Type R 4 No N/A 147.3 kW

197.5 HP

40. Natalie Paciullo MISSR Honda Integra Type R 4 No N/A 146.4 kW

196.3 HP

41. Maurice John UAT738 Nissan S15 200sx 4 No Turbo 142 kW

190.4 HP

42. Osman WOE784 Nissan Skyline GTR Straight 6 No Turbo 141.4 kW

189.6 HP

43. Danny Chen UMD783 Honda Civic 4 No N/A 136 kW

182.4 HP

44. Alan VQV Honda S2000 4 No N/A 118.2 kW

158.5 HP

45. Jon Souvatzis PETIR Toyota Celica 4 No Turbo 80.9 kW

108.5 HP

46. Shaun Milde FLAMINLOW Toyota Hilux 4 No N/A 58.5 kW

78.4 HP

47. Mehmet RB26N1 Nissan Skyline GT4 Straight 6 No N/A 52.7 kW

70.7 HP

mine is the evo that ran up 310.8kws (they only gave me 2 runs) dyno was probably out but not by 50+ kws.

[2rismo]

47. Mehmet RB26N1 Nissan Skyline GT4 Straight 6 No N/A 52.7 kW

What?

[tenji`]

yeh its a bit like that lol

[DRD-00F]

17. Alan Calleja (Hidden) Nissan R33 GTST Straight 6 No Turbo 239.3 kW

320.9 HP

What?

[Beer Baron]

What GTR ran 140kws?

ummm you just posted it yourself...

42. Osman WOE784 Nissan Skyline GTR Straight 6 No Turbo 141.4 kW

189.6 HP

[Swiper the Fox]

ummm you just posted it yourself...

42. Osman WOE784 Nissan Skyline GTR Straight 6 No Turbo 141.4 kW

189.6 HP

I knew Osman's did some strange things like remove all the seats in a WRX convert it to a ute and run a single seat in the middle of the car....but remove the turbo's off a GTR is wrong in the extreme.

[MrStabby]

I knew Osman's did some strange things like remove all the seats in a WRX convert it to a ute and run a single seat in the middle of the car....but remove the turbo's off a GTR is wrong in the extreme.

42. Osman WOE784 Nissan Skyline GTR Straight 6 No Turbo 141.4 kW 189.6 HP

The "No" refers to no NOS, the "turbo" means it is running a turbo - notice some others have N/A in this field.

[DRD-00F]

BWAHAHAHA

owned... including me

is it really that hard to add the freaking s on the end? seriously...

[TiTAN]

ones that had nos have "yes" there instead doof.

[STATUS]

not trying to wind you up here but your example is a little poor...everytime ive ran my car on a dyno in the night air its made more power...say 10kw minimum. Autosalon is run during the day and the conditions/air is not ideal compared to at night at workshop. Say you take that 10kw off the night reading...the dyno was out by 9kw!

Real world example...my car ran 467kw at Croydon the night before NAS last year...the next day with hotter more humid conditions combined with fuel/exhaust gas in the air it rolled 450kw. Was it because the dyno/ramp rates were wrong...no its because the conditions were not ideal for the car to perform to its optimum.

All cars in dyno comps are supposed to be run in 4th or 5th depending on which gear is 1:1 eg 5 speed in 4th or 6 speed in 5th

haha you spend too much time typing...... and coming up with conspiracy theories :laughing-smiley-014: dont get me started with you just plain reading into things that just aint there..... i dont know how you find the time... im too busy on the dyno all day to keep track of it all...

just thought id let you know that i looked at athids dyno time (@RE's) it was 2pm about the same time as MAS ambient temp also about the same (within 2degrees of MAS) dyno graph below. didnt check baro as frankly i couldnt be fkd.

agreed cars are always run in 1:1...thats why athid had the whinge every one knows s15 are 6 speed, and 5th is 1:1.

oh and ignore the boost levels ray had some boost scale issues on the first few runs, all runs were 23psi. feel free to ring and ask him if you think its another conspiracy

Edited October 15, 2008 by URAS

[acsplit]

15. John Papadopoulos TRACKCAR Nissan S14 4 No Turbo 261.8 kW

351.1 HP

Well that is within a KW or 2 of what it makes @ Dr Drifts but then again he has a chassis dyno which means lots of wheel spin

would be interesting to see some other cars on your or rays dyno, might see if some can pop down next friday to RE

[PM-R33]

47. Mehmet RB26N1 Nissan Skyline GT4 Straight 6 No N/A 52.7 kW (70.7 HP)

That guy has a license plate saying "RB26N1" and its a non turbo skyline making 52.7kw.....LOL!

[STATUS]

15. John Papadopoulos TRACKCAR Nissan S14 4 No Turbo 261.8 kW

351.1 HP

Well that is within a KW or 2 of what it makes @ Dr Drifts but then again he has a chassis dyno which means lots of wheel spin

would be interesting to see some other cars on your or rays dyno, might see if some can pop down next friday to RE

yeah ive done 4 cars now, one on rays, one str8 from sabbadins and two from T&E ?? in paky all with in reasonable limits. Rays was a good test for differrences between 4 and 5th. I ve also had heaps of remaps come in from DRDRIFT that i have tuned that pulled close to thier sheets on my dyno before we started any work. Pretty sure DRDRIFT's is pretty much always spot on... it should read the same as MPC's as its the same dyno There should be hardly any wheelspin at a lowly 260 rwkw...

Edited October 16, 2008 by URAS

[Swiper the Fox]

haha you spend too much time typing...... and coming up with conspiracy theories :laughing-smiley-014: dont get me started with you just plain reading into things that just aint there..... i dont know how you find the time... im too busy on the dyno all day to keep track of it all...

just thought id let you know that i looked at athids dyno time (@RE's) it was 2pm about the same time as MAS ambient temp also about the same (within 2degrees of MAS) dyno graph below. didnt check baro as frankly i couldnt be fkd.

agreed cars are always run in 1:1...thats why athid had the whinge every one knows s15 are 6 speed, and 5th is 1:1.

oh and ignore the boost levels ray had some boost scale issues on the first few runs, all runs were 23psi. feel free to ring and ask him if you think its another conspiracy

But you said in your post "the other night" so was it at night or 2pm...lol

it took of a minute or two reading your excuse to come up with the theory at 11pm after a few of Coopers pale brew's.

Edited October 16, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[STATUS]

But you said in your post "the other night" so was it at night or 2pm...lol

it took of a minute or two reading your excuse to come up with the theory at 11pm after a few of Coopers pale brew's.

LOL mate i understand i dont know if im martha or arthur im that busy little own the time of day or nght i went down there, had a few mag editors in here the other day doing a BEFORE and AFTER article which put me even further behind.... days hours have no meaning anymore its just light and dark and lots of dyno noise.... if im lucky i get to visit the engine room....

Edited October 16, 2008 by URAS

[Swiper the Fox]

LOL mate i understand i dont know if im martha or arthur im that busy little own the time of day or nght i went down there, had a few mag editors in here the other day doing a BEFORE and AFTER article which put me even further behind.... days hours have no meaning anymore its just light and dark and lots of dyno noise.... if im lucky i get to visit the engine room....

ahh well...while your busy $$ are rollin through the door...and your not at the pub.

what are you doing posting in here anyway...i thought you were tuning all day

now get back to that dyno where you belong... ...bad tuner...bad tuner!

Edited October 16, 2008 by DiRTgarage

[sno33]

i had thought James imported the car? not actually build it?