Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

its not that the tanks have to be majorly different

its that only 1 brand of tank has paid for the required R&D to be able to certify they are safe

and they charge a mint for their tanks

[NYTSKY]

Just got an email from PJ (Paul) and he just ran 503 rwhp on the JEM dyno with 25 psi on a 3076 and 1.12 exhaust housing on E85 with 1600cc indy blue injectors.

He mentioned they did run up to 27.5 psi boost and made more power but were concerned for the intregity of the SR20 block as it wasn't sleeved.

376 rwks' has surely got to be a record out of a 3076 on any engine.....

He was frying 4th on the M5

Mine will be getting tuned next week.

I made 348 at 19psi.23psi will be the aim next week, id like to see what 25psi makes on the RB though.

PJ also has water injection, so that would keep the air charge temps way down.

Im excited!!!

[juggernaut1]

He was frying 4th on the M5

Mine will be getting tuned next week.

I made 348 at 19psi.23psi will be the aim next week, id like to see what 25psi makes on the RB though.

PJ also has water injection, so that would keep the air charge temps way down.

Im excited!!!

Yes frying 4th at 160klm's.

He wasn't using the water injection in that 503hp dyno run.....insanely enough there is more power to come.

So he's found and extra 50 odd rwhp from the bigger ex housing, 1 psi more boost, upgraded fuel system, M&W CDI and retune.

He also mentioned EGT's were way down with the larger ex housing - as you would expect.

[Guilt-Toy]

Yes frying 4th at 160klm's.

Been there done that. after a few sets of tyres you wonder what the fuss was all about in the first place.

[juggernaut1]

Been there done that. after a few sets of tyres you wonder what the fuss was all about in the first place.

With a 3076 tho? OK techically PJ is running a T25 flanged HKS 56 trim 3037 on a 2 litre.

Bigger turbo's on bigger engines make bigger torque so you'd kinda expect more fryability.

Edited June 28, 2009 by juggernaut1

[Guilt-Toy]

With a 3076 tho? OK techically PJ is running a T25 flanged HKS 56 trim 3037 on a 2 litre.

Bigger turbo's on bigger engines make bigger torque so you'd kinda expect more fryability.

regardless of turbo / setup, you get over it after a while

[juggernaut1]

regardless of turbo / setup, you get over it after a while

Haha....yes always modifying for that bigger "fix" once you get used to it.

I'm always fascinated how enthusiasts are raising the bar all the time - its amazing what people are screwing out of there motors these days.

However, what was awesome last year is average this year....and so on......where will it ever end.

[Smitizen]

Quick question people. What will 555cc injectors run out at roughly (kw) when using E85 on a gts-t?

[Sydneykid]

Quick question people. What will 555cc injectors run out at roughly (kw) when using E85 on a gts-t?

Depends on how much fuel pressure you are running.

Cheers

Gary

[rob82]

Quick question people. What will 555cc injectors run out at roughly (kw) when using E85 on a gts-t?

About 340rwkw on std pressure using BSFC = 0.6(which is about what I've found).

BTW I've made just over 600rwhp on E85 using 60LB/hr(630cc/min) with 4Bar base pressure on an XR6T which confirms my BSFC calc of 0.6.

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

Just got an email from PJ (Paul) and he just ran 503 rwhp on the JEM dyno with 25 psi on a 3076 and 1.12 exhaust housing on E85 with 1600cc indy blue injectors.

He mentioned they did run up to 27.5 psi boost and made more power but were concerned for the intregity of the SR20 block as it wasn't sleeved.

376 rwks' has surely got to be a record out of a 3076 on any engine.....

I'm running RB25 with a .68 on a 3037 Pro S.

Standard Manifolds E85 etc etc.

Edited July 4, 2009 by RB25DETS2

[allthewaytotheskyline]

that is some off the chart torque there champ....

must be hell of a ride...

what other supporting mods?

also at what revs is it making full boost?

Edited July 4, 2009 by allthewaytotheskyline

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

that is some off the chart torque there champ....

must be hell of a ride...

what other supporting mods?

Yeah mate lots of fun.

Just the normal stuff

PFC

HKS Turbz

850 Sard injectors

Blitz LM cooler

Blitz POD

Standard BOV

Z32 AFM

Nismo FPR

Bosch 044 in tank

Gizzmo EBC

oh and lots of boost (23psi)

[Guilt-Toy]

that is some off the chart torque there champ....

must be hell of a ride...

what other supporting mods?

also at what revs is it making full boost?

where is the torque read out?

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

where is the torque read out?

Heres a torque read out just for you GT....180or200's car in red (3582 .82) and mine in blue(3037 .68) overlayed on the same Dyno.

[Guilt-Toy]

Heres a torque read out just for you GT....180or200's car in red (3582 .82) and mine in blue(3037 .68) overlayed on the same Dyno.

900nm, nice.. my car was making around 1080nm to 1180nm but it never had a aggresive tune, 500cc don't make too much difference.

[SS8_Gohan]

Yeah mate lots of fun.

Just the normal stuff

PFC

HKS Turbz

850 Sard injectors

Blitz LM cooler

Blitz POD

Standard BOV

Z32 AFM

Nismo FPR

Bosch 044 in tank

Gizzmo EBC

oh and lots of boost (23psi)

standard internals? 23psi??

what's with people running massive boost on un-opened engines?? i think hamish is like 23psi as well on his 33??

[180or200]

The pressure from pre-ignition is far greater, since E85 doesnt have that problem should be fine! I've seen Lee's car hold 30 psi on the road on a cold night, that was radical!

Edited July 6, 2009 by 180or200

[allthewaytotheskyline]

well i would presume (based upon what ive read) due to detonation and all, with e85 which dies off once it hits its top end of power instead of detonation that it would be much safer to push more boost without the knock.

although...i may just be wrong.

[Guilt-Toy]

people still think that E85 is the ticket to more safe power. This is not the case! you are still limited to the engines internals.

it is easier and safer to make the power but if you are using standard internals or have a weak engine it will still break.