Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !

[ironpaw]

Question for VIC/Melb guys,

According to Caltex's release, the Caltex on corner of Clayton and Centre rd is supposed to have Eflex. I went there last week and they didn't!!!

Can anyone confirm whether the Springvale or Mt Waverley stations DEFINATELY have it? Hate driving all the way there and it doesn't have it...

Springvale, 154-172 Springvale Road

Footscray, 62-82 Gordon Street

Hillside, 575 Melton Highway

Campbellfield, 1802-1808 Hume Highway corner Barrys Road

Mount Waverley, 622-626 Blackburn Road

Clayton, 409 Clayton Road corner Centre Road

Yarra Glen, 66 Bell Street

Preston, 349 Plenty Road

Melton, corner Melton Highway and Gisborne Melton Road

Lilydale, 346 Main Street

Mornington, 841 Nepean Highway

Err, just checked google maps street view:

622 Blackburn rd Mt Waverley is an AMPOL? I've been past there a few times and I don't recall a Caltex there....hmmm

LOL same with 154 Springvale Rd Springvale:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&rlz=&q=154+springvale+rd+springvale&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=154+Springvale+Rd,+Springvale+VIC+3171&gl=au&ei=wpeGTYz1BIfIvQPsrKDaCA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA

Am I missing something here? I take it the Google Maps street pics must be really outta date?

Edited March 21, 2011 by ironpaw

[scotty nm35]

They both have eflex, as does the lilydale and campbelfield. I hadn't checked the clayton one, sorry mate.

[ironpaw]

ahh filled up with Eflex and LPG @ Springvale on my lunch break...

attendant was like "you know that stuff can wreck your engine right??"

[scotty nm35]

If you go to the Blackburn road or Lilydale ones they don't give a crap. lol.

Just give them a wave at Springvale, to let them know you are fine, and know what you are doing, and want them to please turn the pump on. lol.

I thought most of the attendants would know my car there, must be high staff turnover.

[Harey]

I can confirm this one, saw it on sunday:

Campbellfield, 1802-1808 Hume Highway corner Barrys Road

[scotty nm35]

That servo is just up the street from Edge, where I was getting my car tuned on Sunday, you should have dropped in Jeff.

Its bloody handy having an ethanol pump so close by as most people in the know want an e85 tune now. I hope Caltex are planning to roll out more pumps soon though.

[Harey]

That servo is just up the street from Edge, where I was getting my car tuned on Sunday, you should have dropped in Jeff.

Its bloody handy having an ethanol pump so close by as most people in the know want an e85 tune now. I hope Caltex are planning to roll out more pumps soon though.

Ah bummer! I was at the Hypergear workshop hanging out and solving my boost dropping issue woohoo!

[Sunkist]

just refilled my first tank of e85 lol.

$65 for a full tank from the empty light being just on is the best part of it.

oh wait.. no the power is

lol the blackburn rd guy shook his head at me and said in an indian accent "only these bloody japanese cars put this fuel" i said, the owners were smart thats why

[ironpaw]

just refilled my first tank of e85 lol.

$65 for a full tank from the empty light being just on is the best part of it.

LOL something is wrong there...only 50L to fill up your car!? (Assuming Eflex is $1.29 atm)

Ah wait your fuel gauge is wrong....forgot

[scotty nm35]

The previous locator link is not working, here is another site I found.

http://www.ethanolanswers.com.au/ethanol/locator

No mention of the other blends, just Caltex pumps I think.

[SargeRX8]

More power and paying less at the petrol pump? This is something I want in.

Anyone give insight as to if my mods will support. Fuel system consist of a Bosch 040 and Nismo 740cc injectors. ECU is a power FC. All my gear is going in it soon and one of the benefits, apart from power and cost, is EGT with E85 and other blends should be lower and it detonates less, so Ive heard.

Would my fuel setup be sufficient? Its in an R33 GTST.

Also does anyone have a list of places with E85 in Sydney? I know theres a place up on victoria road but damn, driving 30 mins each way to fill up fuel...

I'd be willing to invest in a kit to load maps onto my ECU as I need them. One for E85 and one for regular unleaded fuel. Does anyone here do this? Are there any ECU's which can support both fuels or have two maps pre loaded? If I was to say run my PFC and have a tune on my PC for the other type of fuel, would there be bad results when switching between fuel types, because of the remains in the fuel system and bit in the tank?

Also just noticed the above link lol. Started reading a few pages back then dumped a post.

Edited March 26, 2011 by SargeRX8

[scotty nm35]

Your fuel system looks fine, but what power? You will need about 20% more fuel at wot so if you have at least that overhead with your injectors now you should be fine.

[Trozzle]

regarding $$$ per kilometer, E85 will actually work out worse. Just addressing your very first line in the post here

Otherwise you've got the same fuel setup as me...I'm not running ethanol yet so I can't comment on what power the fuel setup should be good for, but I'd say 350rwkw easily. For a standard RB25DET, you're not going to have fueling issues unless you're going beyond the "safe" limits of the internals.

[SargeRX8]

Your fuel system looks fine, but what power? You will need about 20% more fuel at wot so if you have at least that overhead with your injectors now you should be fine.

Ive got the ATR43SS turbo off Stao. He was making 320rwkw on standard internals but with 800cc injectors being the different factor. I'm looking at roughly 280 - 300rwkw on standard fuel.

[Trozzle]

Well I'm using the Nismo 740cc's and made 295rwkw on 98ron with the ATR43. Don't know the duty cycle to be honest, but I wouldn't say much more than ~55% on full boost.

[Randon_I_Am]

I'm interested to see another result of that ATR43SS. Is it the -1 or the -2?

[SargeRX8]

-1 I think. The one on page 73 of this thread I think it was with the 17 psi then 20psi run.

[boostn0199]

Yeah theres no reason to get happy about the price cause it will probably work out to cost more or just even if your lucky. Needs to be 80-90 cents to be worth it cost wise.

[Sunkist]

yeh but i think it does make it easier to pay smaller amounts at a time rather than a larger amount.

for me its a plus because i was spending $95 on 98 to get 350km out of a tank (about 170kw atw - pre tune - rich as) but now im spending about $75 for E85 for about 350km now that the tune is sorted and the fuel mixture is correct at about 285kw atw - so it was kind of a plus for me. and its still running really rich as its not really maxed on performance because of a boost issue and trans is holding me back.

i know i'de get more km's out of it if I went on 98 now. but thats not happening lol

[scotty nm35]

Yeah theres no reason to get happy about the price cause it will probably work out to cost more or just even if your lucky. Needs to be 80-90 cents to be worth it cost wise.

Not everyone running ethanol is a tightarse, some run it because its a better (higher octane) fuel, Holden are banking on people running it for no power increase, just to make you feel warm, fuzzy and green. It has worked out around the same cost as 98 for me per km, but with a much higher power output.

I run ethanol because I hated the sound of my engine pinging on a hot day, I wanted to run stupid boost, and the 30% extra torque was a great bonus. Plus much of my hard earned is staying in Australia, some even going to our poor farmers.

Is there a better fuel you can buy from the pump?