Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !

[scotty nm35]

There has been no fuel variation to speak of since e85 was introduced, as long as you run the same brand and fatten the fuel map a little it will run fine.

I predict 300kw with crazy response.

[Super Drager]

Well i plan to use caltex eflex which is closer to E70 i believe as i have several of them not far from my place. Yes the main goal of the car is heaps of response, mid-range power is the main concern

Also guys i know this is probably crap but wtf is this? must be magical like an ebay chip

http://www.ecofuelbox.com/en/6-Cylinders-Ethanol-e85-Kit.html

Edited June 17, 2012 by Super Drager

[scotty nm35]

Pretty much, it just intercepts the injector signal and modifies it so the stock injectors will run fine on ethanol.

[Super Drager]

Bloody hell i'd be happy with anything around 270-280kw as i'll get bigger huffers on it one day to make more, but E85 seems to be the way to go if you want the best out of it. While i'm here, anyone used rochester injectors? fair few supra's run em for E85 and they are fairly cheap but will need a custom rail + plugs for my setup.

[ARTZ]

saw these the other day as well, wondering how safe they would be.. keen to throw something like it in the honda though I've been advised it could run lean

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/E85-Conversion-kit-Ethanol-Bioethanol-fuel-SAAB-VOLVO-FORD-VW-BMW-MERCEDES-OPEL-/320898056038?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab703bf66

[scotty nm35]

Don't bother, just get 30%bigger injectors and drive it.

[ARTZ]

ok well that sounds simple enough...

what do you think the chances are of it actually working?

[scotty nm35]

The stock ecu should take care of everything mate, Perhaps run it up on a dyno to make sure the afr's are fine. You could adjust fuelling with an adjustable reg if you needed to.

[ARTZ]

so from what i can find the injectors are 270cc, so a 350cc should be spot on...pretty sre they're an ev14 injecotr too, will get back on that after some googling

[JonnoHR31]

Don't bother, just get 30%bigger injectors and drive it.

I hope you're joking? Theres no way this would ever work properly, mainly due to latency.

[scotty nm35]

Most ecu's will learn quite well considering, especially the newer ones. Of course it's always better to run an EMU or similar but in an NA engine it won't do any harm. Latency shouldn't be an issue with the newer design injectors imo. Do it Artz and prove me right. lol.

The other option is to run a new Walbro 416 or similar and bump up the pressure on the stock injectors.

[ARTZ]

ok looked into it a bit..cant easily run a reg cause its a non-return fuel system..I Know the honda ecu is pretty tricky, runs dual widebands and has lot of self learning features whether or not this will work in my favour or against im not sure...Apparently they get upset when cats are removed

the thread i read where a guy just filled up with e85, said it was running 18:1 afrs...oddly enough it lost power on dyno but was faster than other cars the same...

[scotty nm35]

Returnless fuel systems still have a reg in the tank normally. The self learning should be fine if you keep everything stock.

If you were planning to gain power don't bother. (unless you strap a turbo to it or bump the compression up to 15:1)

[Super Drager]

So, anyone here using rochester injectors? 1000cc ones are $88 a piece and i've seen them on heaps of supra's running E85.

[scotty nm35]

Bosch 1000's, you should be able to get them for around the same price, why would you go for anything else these days for less than 500kw.

[ARTZ]

Returnless fuel systems still have a reg in the tank normally. The self learning should be fine if you keep everything stock.

If you were planning to gain power don't bother. (unless you strap a turbo to it or bump the compression up to 15:1)

I probably wont bother anyway but it keeps me ammused thinking about it..

[scotty nm35]

A nice bonus today when I went to fill up at United, they have decided to lower the price of e85 to 25c less than unleaded. (from 10c less) I ended up paying 96c a litre, it hasn't been that cheap ever as far as I remember...

Apparently United buying the ethanol processing plant in Queensland has filtered down to us plebs at the pump for a nice discount.

[34GeeTeeTee]

A nice bonus today when I went to fill up at United, they have decided to lower the price of e85 to 25c less than unleaded. (from 10c less) I ended up paying 96c a litre, it hasn't been that cheap ever as far as I remember...

Apparently United buying the ethanol processing plant in Queensland has filtered down to us plebs at the pump for a nice discount.

Serious?

Oh wait, i shouldnt get that excited as there is still only Caltex around here.... E70 it is.... I REALLY hope the E85 comes down in price so the popularity goes up so more stations are available...

[scotty nm35]

There are 4 United servo's in NSW now, hopefully more will follow as they are pumping the Melbourne rollout heavily. Dont look if you don't want to get upset. lol.

http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/store-locator/fuels/E85

[34GeeTeeTee]

There are 4 United servo's in NSW now, hopefully more will follow as they are pumping the Melbourne rollout heavily. Dont look if you don't want to get upset. lol.

http://www.unitedpet...cator/fuels/E85

Damn!

What is the current E content of the United stuff? How does it compare to E-flex?