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discopotato03 Grand Master

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Finally reached the end of this thread . Also now on the alky wagon but need a tune off Scotty at Insight . If he can get the old PFC to do it great but the Evo will probably get a ViPec plug in if Eflex works out well in the Skyline .

Need more outlets here in Sydney , cheers A .

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Did you know.... The first production car the Ford Model T 1908 was flex fuel compatible ? It could run just as good on ethanol as did on gasoline. There was a brass knob on the right side of the stee

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so i got a bit keen today and went for a drive to the united and grabbed 40 litres of e85. went to try and syphon it and got it on my lips, damn it burnt!! so i gave up on that idea.... we had a s

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Mick, I don't see the point of pushing every last kw out of an engine in a daily driver. I mean each to their own and all that - bit different for track cars. A tune will forever be a compromise betwe

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flying saucer Newbie

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did you guys replace fuel hoses at all?

i just replaced mine with these to be safe http://mrparts.com.a...product_id=1434

my last car converted to e85 and the fuel hoses turned to liquid in a few days lol

for people in north/eastern burbs of melbourne, a united servo with E85 just opened up in Doreen on corner of yan yean and bridge inn road :)

scotty nm35 Grand Master

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Nice, that would be the closest United e85 pump to the Hume right? I will be driving up to Sydney on e85 next weekend so I will fill up there on my way. Thanks Paul.

I wonder if we could get a google map together with all the e85 servo's in Australia listed, I have to find the Sydney outlets and it's a pain to look up each one, plus most of the location lists are behind...

did you guys replace fuel hoses at all?

I replaced all my lines with Teflon braided hose, it wasn't cheap, I ran the stock lines for over 2 years though without any issues. Later cars will be less susceptible to ethanol corrosion as materials have become more tolerant.

SS8_Gohan Grand Master

SS8_Gohan

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i was under the impression late 80's, early 90's onwards and you'd be fine?

my previous car, 1998 R34 GT-T had completely stock lines, for everything. It's been on E85 for... 4-5 years now? New owner kept it on E85. Not a problem.

discopotato03 Grand Master

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I ran my first tank or so of Eflex and changed my filter (Z201 on R33) just so I know the filters good . I replaced the rubber hose on the pressure side (filter side) just because I tend to do this with fuel hose when working on it . I will get around to doing the return side eventually again just so its a known quantity .

I think the main concerns are in the engine bay because of the fire risk if they fail .

Also I bought 5/16 EFI hose and it proved difficult to get the new hoses over the barbs with the original clamps , had to put the clamps on the steel lines and then the hose over the barbs and the clamps back on the slightly larger OD imperial hose which is awkward . The lesson learnt is buy metric hose or slightly larger clamps .

BTW picked open the old Ryco Z201 filter which looked fine as in no garbage , a little dark but they probably all do that . I want to rat up an R31s fuel filter bracket and see if it will fit so I can use the larger can and hopefully filter element area Z202 filter . Bigger filter can't hurt and I will open an R31 filter next time I'm at a you pull it wreckers .

I would like to see more United E85 in Sydney so I could try some and compare E70 to E85 mixture ratio differences . Ultimately the Eflex may give a bit better mileage/consumption and the 15% ethanol difference is probably unimportant in a road car provided its in a sensible state of tune and not on the bleeding edge of detonation .

The exception would be EPA testing where the higher the ethanol content the better and a real good cat and tune .

We need to get GT kicked out of Georgia so he has to come home and tune our cars , A .

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34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

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I'm 2 mins from the new united servo. Next Thursday, car is booked in for a retune on E85. Should be interesting :)

You'll love the stuff :thumbsup:

AngryRB Grand Master

AngryRB

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caltex has a good fuel station locator if anyone's interested, it shows your where the E85 is located in the country to plan your trips, i have 3 within 30mins and are usually on the way to my destinations :P

how many kms are you guys getting to a tank, im getting about 300km with average driving, love the smell of it on a cold start..

battery Mentor

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What sort of water temps are you guys seeing? Been driving in the hills a few times on a cool night and it sits around 65-70 degrees!!! even around town In traffic I never see it pass 75, was thinking maybe the thermostat is stuck open but then I read of other guys having similar experiences..

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AngryRB Grand Master

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lol.. funny that, my clutch seems to be going too, sometimes it grips and just get wheels spin, other times it just feels like its not there, :/

i think ill get my second gear some new syhchro's and bearing when the clutch gets done so will be much better..

34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

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Don't have an accurate guage mate.... Planning on installing a set in the near future but pretty sure mine is making operating temp OK.... Possibly yours is stuck open?

34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

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lol.. funny that, my clutch seems to be going too, sometimes it grips and just get wheels spin, other times it just feels like its not there, :/

i think ill get my second gear some new syhchro's and bearing when the clutch gets done so will be much better..

Lol, didn't we discuss this at some stage? :P told you it would fail hehehe....

AngryRB Grand Master

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What sort of water temps are you guys seeing? Been driving in the hills a few times on a cool night and its sits around 65-70 degrees!!! even around town In traffic I never see it pass 75, was thinking maybe the thermostat is stuck open but then I read of other guys having similar experiences..

mine will sit on about 76 unless im in stop/start driving or highway with a/c on, definitely runs cooler after the transistion to eflex, although i have ceramic coated manifold and housing ..

AngryRB Grand Master

AngryRB

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Lol, didn't we discuss this at some stage? :P told you it would fail hehehe....

ive always hated it anyway.. its too light and soft, a short shifter kit and a heavy meaty clutch will make a world of difference.. :yes:

34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

34GeeTeeTee

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ive always hated it anyway.. its too light and soft, a short shifter kit and a heavy meaty clutch will make a world of difference.. :yes:

Mine is a VERY heavy clutch but a very light pedal feel apparently (yet to trial it).... Can't wait

battery Mentor

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Don't have an accurate guage mate.... Planning on installing a set in the near future but pretty sure mine is making operating temp OK.... Possibly yours is stuck open?

mmm might just be a combination of e85, turbo being oil cooled only and a deleted stock oil to water cooler/warmer... Will have to pull the thermostat to be sure i guess.

34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

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mmm might just be a combination of e85, turbo being oil cooled only and a deleted stock oil to water cooler/warmer... Will have to pull the thermostat to be sure i guess.

I would be checking it first :) do a test and see if it's working with hot/cold water etc

KURTIS34 Community Regular

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What sort of water temps are you guys seeing? Been driving in the hills a few times on a cool night and it sits around 65-70 degrees!!! even around town In traffic I never see it pass 75, was thinking maybe the thermostat is stuck open but then I read of other guys having similar experiences..

My temp seems normal 80°c. Normal driving

On boost temp drops because of the eflex

34GeeTeeTee Grand Master

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My temp seems normal 80°c. Normal driving

On boost temp drops because of the eflex

Or because you are doing sneaky night runs man :ph34r: haha

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