NYTSKY Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 From RaceFuels its $2/Litre+freight. I just cant see me paying that much for something that i pay 99c for now. I do one trip a month to Rozelle and im getting 200L at a time. Only have 40L left so i think ill be going back there in the next day or two. Holden are going to release that E85 commonwhore later this year or early next year, so hopefully that means more E85 at the pump. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4502407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 if i was to run the 85/98 mix in my 85/91 (united brew) tuned car, would i have to retune, or would i just get same power but less knock? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4503497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLMS Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Theoretically the mixtures wouldn't change but you'd have a bit more octane - so all good. PL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4503564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTSKY Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Went to the United at Rozelle today and got 100 odd litres. I asked the guy if E85 will still be for sale there in future. He said "ofcoarse". He said its growing in popularity day by day. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 excellent Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphid Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 e85 apparently comes out at the united servo on sandgate rd at virginia sometime in april I took the initiative tonight to fill up with e10 and go for a bit of a tune to give myself a bit of a feel for what's to come and I'm liking it Can't wait to jump onto the e85 bandwagon next month! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbostyleR Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 how sure are you on this aphid? I would love to starting using e85 asap as my cars not really a daily just a registered track car... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9krpm Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 There are reports of Walbro fuel pump failures around the globe. I read that Walbro doesn's support E85 use with their pumps as well. Have you guys seen/had problem with pumps? I've maxed out my PE 1000cc injectors on a 3L RB with the E85. I've read mixed reports of spray pattern, mostly bad, with the Indy Blue 1600. I am not sure if it's entirely true or not but not too keen to try them out on a circuit car. Has anyone try these big squirters? What do you guys suggest for injector upgrade with good spray pattern to maintain good idle and midrange response? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLMS Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I've heard the same about Walbros - but not seen any evidence to support it yet. The first car I tuned for E85 is running a Walbro and still going strong. PL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilt-Toy Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 i ran a walbro as a pickup pump to the 044 and i never had any dramas with it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
180or200 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 There are reports of Walbro fuel pump failures around the globe. I read that Walbro doesn's support E85 use with their pumps as well. Have you guys seen/had problem with pumps?I've maxed out my PE 1000cc injectors on a 3L RB with the E85. I've read mixed reports of spray pattern, mostly bad, with the Indy Blue 1600. I am not sure if it's entirely true or not but not too keen to try them out on a circuit car. Has anyone try these big squirters? What do you guys suggest for injector upgrade with good spray pattern to maintain good idle and midrange response? I've had a tomei pump die running e85 also blocked a few filters, ended up useing a 044 intank, will soon be adding a couple more external 044's and a extra fuel line! what sort of power do 1000cc's support, what afr is it running? my 25 still runs side feed 850cc sard's and are maxed at 380 rwkw on willalls mainline, im pretty sure by the way the map suddenly maxes (crazy rich then snaps lean) out it's a flow issue not the injectors Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4504795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9krpm Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Thanks for the info Adrian. My car is still with my tuner so I've not receive any other info beside the fact that my injector duty cycle is at 100% on 24psi (about the same as your there). I have a feeder intank pump, 2x 044's, 2x dash 6 or dash 8 fuel lines and a Greddy fuel rail. I have no clue what lambda or fuel pressure are at. I will be keen to find out next week. I also intend to change the inline fuel filters to something with better flow. What are you guys using for the E85? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4505041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
180or200 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 No probs mate, I love the stuff, the more the word gets out the closer we are to getting it more available I'm just useing genuine nissan filters, when i run the extra line ill just use 2 of them, will be trying a 300zx filter next since they are larger, see how that goes! If they keep blocking ill change to a washable filter. I've tried a few different afr's and .85 seems to be a good middle range, takes alot more fuel to get it to .80 the afr in the above graph was just a quick tune, havn't had time to fix it up yet, just stuck it on the dyno to compare it against my wideband Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4505310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLMS Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Got a call from my mate this weekend. He's been running E85 in his 180SX and intended to go for a drive back to the Riverland (SA) for the weekend. Went to get E85 from EFFUE at Mawson Lakes only to be told that they had none! If this keeps happening then E85 is not going to be a realistic option in SA. Very annoying. Fortunately we still had the tune we did for 98 (he's running Z32 AFM + 740's) so I set him up with a multiple map board and now he can switch between the two. Not quite "flex-fuel" but at least it'll get him out of a bind. Gotta make sure he empties one fuel type before filling with the other that's all... PL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4505399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRS13 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) I called United Petroleum and spoke to the NSW Manager. He told me that Rozelle is the only place in Sydney that sells it and that there were no plans to sell it anywhere else in the next 6 months. Besides United at Rozelle, are there any other places that sell it in Sydney or is only available through them? This put me off as I cannot see myself going to Rozelle everytime I need to fill up, especially as it is a weekend car that barely gets driven. Perhaps I should get another 20 litre drum and stock up... I wouldn't mind an extra 20-30rwk!!!! BTW guilt toy I saw you at WSID on Friday night - how did you go, did you run? Edited March 30, 2009 by SRS13 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4508023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilt-Toy Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I called United Petroleum and spoke to the NSW Manager. He told me that Rozelle is the only place in Sydney that sells it and that there were no plans to sell it anywhere else in the next 6 months. Besides United at Rozelle, are there any other places that sell it in Sydney or is only available through them? This put me off as I cannot see myself going to Rozelle everytime I need to fill up, especially as it is a weekend car that barely gets driven. Perhaps I should get another 20 litre drum and stock up... I wouldn't mind an extra 20-30rwk!!!! BTW guilt toy I saw you at WSID on Friday night - how did you go, did you run? Yeah mate, should have come say hello.. Look here http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gu...66#entry4504666 results there (was not running e85, i cannot get enough power with it with my 740cc injectors so i am back on pump gas) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4509826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRS13 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Yeah mate, should have come say hello.. Look herehttp://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gu...66#entry4504666 results there (was not running e85, i cannot get enough power with it with my 740cc injectors so i am back on pump gas) Next time I will! Well done on the time, that is awesome. When you say cannot get enough power, do you mean the 740cc injectors wont let you make the power as they are too small? What power you making current set-up e85 vs 98 pump? Sorry if it is in the previous page, cant be arsed reading it all again! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4510170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 meaning injectors have run out of puff.... so you gonna get bigger injectors yet ant? or still the smaller turbo? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4511063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilt-Toy Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 meaning injectors have run out of puff....so you gonna get bigger injectors yet ant? or still the smaller turbo? yeah 740cc is not big enough to make 380kw at wheels on e85 like i could get with pump gas. So yeah. i am not upgrading injectors. no way. but i will chuck on the smaller turbo later on and then go back to e85. anything over 350rwkw on the street is a waste anyway. i just want to run my 10 on pump first. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4511082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 sweet... do you have enough balls in the rest of your fuel sys to handle 400 on e85? would be nice to see you crack it if you ever decide to upgrade injectors.... i mean there's gotta be someone you could swap with for a small cash advancement.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/239271-guilt-toy-now-running-on-e85/page/31/#findComment-4511486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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