R33 s1 turbo's ball bearing??

[Bo0sT_JuNkY]

as the topic states,

also in stock form whats the most power a 33 turbo has made?? im putting one on my TX3 which has a old skool T25

[rev210]

ball bearing.

[WLD747]

series one skylines r33s are ceramic turbos max of 14psi

[rob77]

most i have seen is 296hp @ rear wheels at 17psi. you couldnt run that all day as the limit is 14psi, was done for a dyno day.

[benm]

14psi ?? Interesting....

Using the stock turbo and stock ECU im currently at 272rwhp. I'm still quite confident I can get the stock turbo much higher than that (well 285+ rwhp) with probably another $2500-3000 of various minor mods.

[Jay95R33]

Yepp, roller bearing.

HP output of a turbo will be different on different motors, so it's a bit hard to say. You may be able to quote what sort of air the turbo can flow, then use that info to calculate the output on your TX3.

J

[Nismodified]

roller bearing as in its uses cylindrical rollers?

or ball bearing ? Or are u using roller bearing as a general term for BB?

[BOOSTD]

Ball bearing, both series one and two have ceramic turbines. Series 2 have plastic compressors.

[Mase]

Any tips on what is a better turbo?? Series 1 or 2??

[Jet]

benm

thats 200rwkw. either your turbo is high flowed and you dont know about it or the dyno you are running on is not accurate. the rating for r33 series1 turbo is around 160rwkw

[Cubes]

Jet..

~200rwkw is pretty much spot on for a RB25DET with a standard turbo running 14psi, aftermarket ecu, fmic & exhaust.

Some RB25DET's are freaks and make ~200rwkw with the above except without the aftermarket ecu.

i.e Bugalugs that also ran a 13.4 1/4 recently.

If I had a RB25DET turbo i'd be running it at 17psi.

You can't really compare the 14psi limit of ceramic turbo's when using a larger turbo on a smaller motor as at 14psi on the smaller motor the shaft speed of the turbo isn't going to be anywhere near as fast as it is on the larger motor. So up the boost so it is

Heat also kills ceramic turbo's.

So if you hammer it on a track day be prepared to loose a turbo.

I have noticed a trend with turbo's that are factory fitted.

For example the RB20DET makes 160kw at the flywheel, when boosted to approx 1bar they make 160-170kw at the rear wheels.

Same with the RB25DET's, they make approx 190kw at the flywheel and when boosted they also make around 190-200kw at the rear wheels.

[Lepperfish]

I got 180rwkw outta my stock R33 turbo at 12psi...

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"14psi ?? Interesting....

Using the stock turbo and stock ECU im currently at 272rwhp. I'm still quite confident I can get the stock turbo much higher than that (well 285+ rwhp) with probably another $2500-3000 of various minor mods."

Stock turbo and Stock ECU?

What mods u have?

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oh...dun worri..

thought u said....272rwKW....

[Cubes]

I'm not

[Bo0sT_JuNkY]

hmm well since nissan didnt stamp the a/r on the turbo its gona a trial and error process to see how it will go.Should make more power than a little t25 and the car wont ever be running more than 12psi.

[Cubes]

The 33 terbs would go well on the TX3 I think. It might make full boost by around 4k.

On the RB20DET it makes full boost around 3.5k so yer not really sure but it should be good.

[Mase]

Anyone got any ideas on which turbo they think is better, series 1 or 2???

[Jet]

Joel, this discussion will probably lead to the accuracy of the dynos. some dyno show better result than others. my car have all the mods you'v mentioned and it made 165rwkw at 14psi on a particular dyno. 165rwkw and 200rwkw is a huge difference, but in fact they might be generating the same power. you get my point?

[Cubes]

yer it seems that all the dyno's down here are very very similiar

i.e a genIII commodore makes 200rwkw with certian mods throw a modded skyline with stock turbo and it makes 200rwkw.. get what i am getting at.