Need Some Your Opinions!

[Kaido_RR]

I was looking at 350-400rwkw. More interested with response then hard hitting boost at 6000RPM.

why do you want that much power?

have you driven a car with that much power?

[ZXY]

why do you want that much power?

have you driven a car with that much power?

why is how much power he wants a problem?

if you are looking for that sort of power..i guess it doesnt matter what shell you use because you would have to upgrade most of the components such as driveline and engine modifications. It wont be cheap to get there though

[Kaido_RR]

why is how much power he wants a problem?

if you are looking for that sort of power..i guess it doesnt matter what shell you use because you would have to upgrade most of the components such as driveline and engine modifications. It wont be cheap to get there though

because there is a huge different in price when it comes to 250rwkw-300rwkw to 350-400rwkw.

you can buy a stockish gts-t r33, bolt on some parts run 16psi and make 250rwkw easy.

Also if your not going to use the power whats the point of spending all the time/money to get it?

[NA_Goodness]

No I havent driven a car with that much power, but if anyone wants to let me I'm willing to give it a go!

I want a car that is quick, very competitive, on the track, the strip, and the street.

[rev210]

I've always wanted to put an LS1 in a Skyline and an RB26 in a WB ute. Don't ask me why!

Yep that might be fun.

Wanting one of those modified cars is all good.

What you don't necessarily want is the money and effort to get them there

If you are thinking 400rwkw as mentioned you might like to investigate the other factors around that power.

My suggestion is think about what is in your head thats saying 400rwkw. What do you see yourself doing with that power? Is it what you 'need' to have in a competitive circuit car? Or is it a starting point for a drag car?

If you are thinking of living with a car that has a motor capable of breaking anything and everything in the drivetrain you need to consider 'how' you can live with it or even if you want to.

Such high power levels when used will cost you alot of money regardless. Check out the budget people ,who have similar use to what you are thinking, have for keeping one of these sort of beasts in good nik .

All those things you want to do with the car = compromises. Powerfull cars are attracted to track crash barriers and drivetrain carnage more than lower powered cars. If you aren't going to and from on a trailer bear that in mind.

A competitive car on the track is less about 400rwkw and more about everything else including your seat time on the track. Seat time on the track and some good lessons are to be budgeted for so you get good value from the car.

You can have a very nice weekend track car setup in the guise of an R32 gtst with fairly low power, say 250rwkw. Roy on the fourms offers a pretty good example of budget racing and road use. Enough power to get you into trouble but, you aren't setting main straight terminal speed records and then risking not being able to haul things up in time.

Edited October 19, 2008 by rev210

[The_Hunster]

My suggestion would be def to go for the purchasing of a factory turbo skyline... have you ever owned a turbo car?... i mean it just may be an idea to cruise around/own a fairly stock turbo skyline before you embark on an incredibly costly and time consuming build. You may find that the fun of cruising around and hearing your turbo spool is actually out weighted by the huge insurance premiums, expensive petrol, constant maintenance etc that is required (and thats just with a bog stocker, you can factor in a whole lot more of that shit if you get a 400kw monster)... alternatively you may find that you absolutely love the car and dont mind the draw backs that a turbo brings... thus u'll be inspired to do your build and you can justify all the $$$ your spending cos you know that you'll defintely enjoy the end result and not resent it. I would just be very wary of embarking on a huge build before you've even enjoyed the benefits of a turbo car, i mean how many times do you see ppls project cars up for sale that have had heaps of cash invested in them but are still far from being completed cos the owner has lost enthusiasm for the project, these scenerios are terrible because you lose bulk cash in selling an unfinished project and you also are hugely disappointed that your vision never became reality (and yes i talk from experiance having lost interest in my incredibly costly drift car build). Spending time and money on a car can become very annoying and unpleasant when you seldom get any fun out of it. Anyway mate just some more friendly advice to digest

[NA_Goodness]

Rev, more great advice. You need to write a newpaper column or something, because what you have to say can help a LOT of people!

I've made up my mind now, I'm selling the NA and starting new, Problem in, now I have to decide want I want I can afford an R32 or R33 GTSt now, both of which I really like. Although I'm in love with the 34 which I can afford early/mid next year, and I've always wanted a GT-R. Then theres the Supra, S14/15, my idea to build an S1580 with an RB in it...

Any suggestions? Leaning towards a 34 GTT at the moment.

As for the built motor, I think I'll do surrounding mods first (Exterior, Interior, brakes, suspension) before I look into taking it to the next level.

Thanks for everyones help though.

[br3ndan]

^^

Agreed.

[Stealthed]

Buy a 33 Gts-t then when you sell it buy a 34 GTR that way you win best of both imo - but its your choice, your money dude

cheers

Benson

[NA_Goodness]

Dont talk about R34 GT-Rs... makes me want to give the bank manager a visit...

[ZXY]

if you cant really decide my guess is too check out the forsale part of this forum and have a wander. Test drive as many cars as you can to get an idea on what you like. All those cars are similar in a way as they are turbo engines but it just depends on what you are after. If are planning on keeping the car for a long time and your goal is to make something with really high horsepower go with a skyline...if its to build something for drifting go with the s14/s15. End of the day, people can only suggest..but you have to like what you buy. Dont let anyone tell you that your vision sucks..each to their own

ps. i could have bought a r34 GTR but the reason i bought a z was because i wanted a roadster...ive always been a sucker for the turbos though and i miss it..coming from a turbo skyline r33 to a NA is not good i tell you

Edited October 19, 2008 by ZXY

[NA_Goodness]

Haha, I doubt I could ever go back to NA once I get rid of this one, except in a bunky.

I think I'll go with the R34. I've driven R33's and R34's before, and the R34 seemed nicer to drive. Mostly because it was newer and pretty stock. Also the R33 had boost spike problems and just recently dropped 5th gear.

Thanks for the tips Terry, anyone want to let me drive their GT-R? Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassse?

[R DIRTY 3]

500hp is fine to have for a track type car. Build it right and it doesnt have to be a laggy bore to drive.

[gersfan]

makes me want to give the bank manager a visit...

don't do it lol

Edited October 19, 2008 by gersfan

[Marco-R34GTT]

+1...

Listen to Marko (dad) remember! lol.....

[NA_Goodness]

Dad, how can I ever forget? I'm not a fan of bank loans. The previous owner of my car got a loan for $20k (my car worth $20k 5 years ago ) and had paid off $25k by the time she sold it to me, and still needed the $9500 she was asking for the car. THATS why I'm not getting a loan!

Still a bit tempting though... GT-R *drools*

[hoony]

25k for an R33 GTS... sh*t how times change ey...

i wonder who's R34 you drove that was so nice etc. etc....

i think they're selling it on these forums, i'm sure they'll give you an awesome price if you ask them nicely, seriously though...

i know someone selling an R34 GTT, i think you'll like the looks of it

[ztuned]

Andrew, he also knows how much its been thrash lol

anyways, sell the NA man. seen a few 'built' r33 with 300kwish for around 20k in the east

[bubba]

i think doing the RB30det build will end up being the cost of your car alone.

Unless you want a budget build which isn't reliable.

I reckon sell it and get a GTR.

by the time the rb30 package is done.... thats 20k there lol

im sure bubba will tell us how cheap he got his for and how his mate does the labour for free lucky bastard!

why not do a GTR + RB30

o hai!

If you have the time, tools and money then building an RB30 is really no different to building any other motor. If you want a nice drop in package with a stock motor, either buy a halfcut or sell your NA and buy a GTSt.

Is that $20k including labour or just parts? I'm going to buy some blown engines to practice rebuilding before I give this one ago. Like I said, I want to get into the modification side of mechanics, so this will be good practice.

Now I'm waiting for Bubba to see this post and comment...

o hai again! my motor as it is right now owes me about 4k, and that's to just make the same power as my RB20 was making (albeit a lot earlier). Then start adding in things like GT35R (1.6k), new manifolds, custom pipework etc etc etc

Easily at least a 10k excercise in just parts.

I also do not agree with people who modify cars while thinking about what they'll get for it when they sell it. That isn't the point of modifying cars. You will never EVER make back anywhere near what you spent, but that isn't the point - it's all about YOUR enjoyment. If it's what you like and what you want to do, then do it. Just don't expect to make any of your money back

Edited October 20, 2008 by bubba

[Dani Boi]

Rhys I reckon if you think that building a car up is something your going to be interested in and you have the patience, garage, knowledge, spare time and money then go for the conversion. Me, personally, would buy a GTS-t and start from there as I'm only interested in a street car, no track work etc.