I Have A Personal Problem I Need Help With

[DECIM8]

Serotonin was the natural substance (well kinda) I was trying to suggest. More for managing depression and is illegal to buy in australia however legal to import 10 packs from NZ. Without prescribtion.

Or you can eat millions of Bannanas

Heres a tip for you disco craze freaks, dont Serotonin load your brain doesnt go down to well.

[NZM.031]

tell her she has some issues that she needs to sought out in the nicest way possible... dont do it over an sms or email.. tell her your side and how it feels and that she needs some time to sought herself out.. if she comes back, it was meant to be, if not, it wasnt meant to be... but keep in touch.. and be friendly and positive.. she may be fragile and do something that she shouldnt...

its a messy situation... but there are 2 quotes i live by...

1. what happens happens for a reason and cannot happen any other way.

2. it will all be ok in the end... if its not ok, its not the end.

cheers

Linton

[MBS206]

I gotta say mate, I'm on two sides of this...

I've had the anger management issues and depression before. For me, the counselling didn't do much, as really, at that stage, *I* didn't want the help.

But years afterwards, I've reflected on things I've been told in those sessions, and from talking to other people, and now I'm completely different.

To this day, I'll walk away from arguments etc as I can't stand yelling voices.

But as for you, my brain is saying "stay strong, help sort her through it, you can do it!" as I know if I were in that position, it's what I'd be thinking. In fact, last year I was in a relationship where I was getting fairly used, and I didn't really realise this until after we broke up (She cheated, it ended) but now, I'm 100 times happier, yet I'm single, so nights can get rather lonely, and I really need my friends around me sometimes otherwise I crash down into depression.

I found, I had to find my own ways to deal with everything, unfortunately, sometimes people find me a tad "cold" for it, as I do lock my inner self away from a lot of people, but it does help me not to go all angry style at the drop of a hat, but at other times, it can also cause depression issues... It's all about me getting my balance.

Personally, I'd try the test that has been suggested, also the pill, yeah, that shit f**ks chicks up bad, then try and get her some one on one help, and a bit of group therapy, and I'd also suggest, get yourself some one on one help, or at least find a REALLY good friend that you can really open up to, a lot of guys have issues doing this, but it does help.

[GTR-N1]

Serotonin was the natural substance (well kinda) I was trying to suggest. More for managing depression and is illegal to buy in australia however legal to import 10 packs from NZ. Without prescribtion.

Or you can eat millions of Bannanas

Heres a tip for you disco craze freaks, dont Serotonin load your brain doesnt go down to well.

The HOD Test picks up Serotonin shortages and by how much. Not forgetting Dopamine and Noradrenalin (an endorphin)

l-Tryptophan & 5-Hydroxytryptophan are "legal" in Australia as direct precursors for Serotonin. They have to be taken with complex carbos to help the crossing of the blood/brain barrier.

But these can't be used whilst on SSRI drugs like Prozac/Aropax/Cipramil/Luvox/Lovan/Lexapro etc due to a build up of XS Serotonin. Vit B3 helps the patient to utilise Serotonin better. And this Vitamin can be used with those drugs above.

Alcohol, Sugar, Recreational drugs, Gen. Anaesthetics and 2-Pack/3-Pack/Clear and Oil based paints temporarily ruin the ability of the liver to produce those precursors. And then those vicious moods come back to bite the sufferer and those around them. That's why several people in the Posts above are concerned about how Hoags can continually withstand the unpredictable backlashes.

When we do Senior First Aid courses, we are taught to preserve #1. Hoags needs to preserve #1. I agree!

[NZM.031]

MBS206....Werd!!! im with you on the yelling... i cant stand people yelling, or even talking loud.. i used to have voices in my head that would argue back and forth... all i could do was stand there and hope it would end.. kind of like hiding under your bed when your parents were having an argument.. i do however like loud things to mask those voices, like loud music, cars, etc.. sometimes i like quiet, but very rarely.

i like my alone time.. i dont have to justify anything to anyone, i dont get questioned as to what im doing and why. i can be shitty and evil if thats the way i am at that time, i dont have to put on a happy face for the sake of others.. its freeing.. but i live for my partner and my puppy, and now my 3rd skyline, without out them id have no purpose, but i also worry that kez is worried about me... since she found out about my depression things have changed a bit.. i used to leave it outside the door and not bring it in... but now its entered my home.. im vulnerable all the time.. my only safe place now is the 32.

sorry to get off topic.

[MBS206]

MBS206....Werd!!! im with you on the yelling... i cant stand people yelling, or even talking loud.. i used to have voices in my head that would argue back and forth... all i could do was stand there and hope it would end.. kind of like hiding under your bed when your parents were having an argument.. i do however like loud things to mask those voices, like loud music, cars, etc.. sometimes i like quiet, but very rarely.

i like my alone time.. i dont have to justify anything to anyone, i dont get questioned as to what im doing and why. i can be shitty and evil if thats the way i am at that time, i dont have to put on a happy face for the sake of others.. its freeing.. but i live for my partner and my puppy, and now my 3rd skyline, without out them id have no purpose, but i also worry that kez is worried about me... since she found out about my depression things have changed a bit.. i used to leave it outside the door and not bring it in... but now its entered my home.. im vulnerable all the time.. my only safe place now is the 32.

sorry to get off topic.

Can agree majorly on the just "me time" thing badly! And the loud things to block out others.

As to the leaving it outside... I found for me, I like those really really close that i have a brilliant emotional attachment to to know... So far... I haven't really found anyone close to me to let know... People know I've been depressed in the past, but not that I still feel it coming back on days, sometimes it lasts just hours, other times, weeks, sometimes a few months.

But my car, my close friends, and my family are my life, they keep me sane... Hopefully long enough till I find a girl.

But my most relaxing thing, or most lifting thing, is buying things for my car... Just earlier, I bought some new cam gears... Felt so damn good after it! My car, really is my release.

So, who can I see for this HOD test to be done around Wollongong/Sydney, and how much will it cost?

[GTR-N1]

PM'd

Cheers,

Tez

[-FIGJAM-]

boxing helped me. I have anger management and depression... Not the best things to talk about, ill agree and say that she has to want to change to change. It cant be forced on her. For me i found that working out and boxing helped alot. There are some great MMA courses around that vent heaps of anger and frustration out, also might give her something to look forward to and concentrate on. Best of luck, it is a hard battle, i know how i effect my family and friends sometimes..... isnt the best feelings.

[NZM.031]

+1 on the gym.. get stuck into it, and block everything else out.. used to work out in a dungeon by myself, no distractions.. just me and the weight.

[TTT]

intense exercise releases the same hormones as those mentioned by Terry.

that's why it's a good release/calming thing to do.

having said that, NO-ONE is worth that sort of hassle.

you saying "losing a piece of your soal each day" may or may not have been a joke... but if you are serious, then forget helping her.

foget loving her.

move on.

she will find someone else, and so will you..

all that aside...

try being more like this fella..

[OzCarImports]

Mate,

Maybe try something like a Hypnotist, I did it for drinking a couple of years ago, I was a mad drinker getting out on it 4-5 nights a week, it worked I still drink but way way less.

Well there you go.

OZ

[GTR-N1]

The "Brain Chemical Messengers" created by gym workouts and physical activity include Noradrenalin, Dopamine and Serotonin.

Yes Happy brain chemicals (ie endorphins) they are...

Shortages can happen through the genes that you are NOT at fault for; or through recreational drugs.

Rectified via Amino Acids, Vitamins, Hormones, Herbs, Prostaglandins, EPA in Omega 3 fatty acids, Inositol.

Tests (such as the HOD) determine dosages.

Google "BRAIN CHEMICAL MESSENGERS" and you can download just the 8 pages from there - more simple to understand than me!

Tez

[R33GTRKid]

mate

I went through this from the age of 22 to 27 with my last serious GF before the one I am currently with and who I know I will marry.

It was horrible, I would try to be the best person I could be for both of us and it was never good enough, she was angry about 90% of the time for no reason, but the other 10% (if it was even that much) she was really sweet and it was those times that made me stick out the bad times in the futile hope that the 90 would become like the 10 but it never did.

My friends, family and work mates saw the change in me from being with her over the 5 years and continually told me to let her go and move on with my life. Even her own family told me to do myself a favour and that she would never be happy because she could not be happy with herself.

We tried counselling and she was also adept at making whoever we spoke to believe I was equally to blame when she knew it wasn't me that was the problem.

She only seemed happy when she was pissed with her mates, but if I was ever around she would just become violent towards me for no reason. She even stabbed me once and pushed over my new Yamaha R1 because I looked at her 'in a condescending manner'.

We broke up a number of times but I always ended up taking her back.

Eventually after losing weeks of sleep, my happiness and becoming increasingly stressed out, after 5 years I finally said enough was enough and I walked. I left her with everything we had acquired together as I did not want any reminders. At first she abused me, called me worthless, a chicken, gutless, a user and all things under the sun. Then she started calling and crying and apologising and believe it or not her mUm even rang me and said to change my number etc which I did. That was hard.

About 10 months later I met the most precious, gorgeous girl I have ever met and in the last 2 years I have never been happier and looking back now I cannot believe that I put myself through that hell. But at the end of the day, what is done is done, all I can offer is to put yourself first. Sit down and truly analyse yourself, if you have done all you can and it is still broken, then it will never be fixed and you could lose the opportunity of being happy with the right person for you.

It takes guts and determination to walk after 6 years mate, but do you really want to spend the rest of your life wondering if there is anything better.... I am sure there is, just take the leap of faith mate but only if you are sure you have done all you can to fix the current situation because otherwise you may also harbour 'what if's''

Hope this helps man!

Simon

[ron]

as above said, you make the change or you ll wonder for the rest of your life.

dont forget, LIFE IS SHORT

[dan_the_man]

Serotonin was the natural substance (well kinda) I was trying to suggest. More for managing depression and is illegal to buy in australia however legal to import 10 packs from NZ. Without prescribtion.

Or you can eat millions of Bannanas

Heres a tip for you disco craze freaks, dont Serotonin load your brain doesnt go down to well.

umm how does serotonin that you buy, get past the blood brain barrier?

[GTR-N1]

umm how does serotonin that you buy, get past the blood brain barrier?

Liver = Organ that produces l-Tryptophan and converts it to 5-Hydroxytryptophan

Blood/Brain Barrier = is where the 5-HTP crosses to the Brain Stem

Complex Carbohydrate + Exercise + Herb = Passiflora if required facilitates the crossover of 5-HTP and hence, production of Serotonin in the Circle of Willis in the Brain Stem

Serotonin one of 3 'happy brain chemicals' governs Mood; especially passivity/shyness, aggression/suspicion, agitated depression/obsession

Serotonin then goes up to the Pineal in the mid brain = Gland that along with l-Taurine (amino acid) + Serotonin > Melatonin which is the chemical/hormone that you may have heard about that prevents 'jet-lag'. When you research Melatonin, you'll gather that as well as correcting Circadian Rhythms > Sleep quality; it also helps to prevent various form of cancer (eg skin, 1 of 5 forms of breast cancer, bladder cancer which is the 4th most common form of cancer in men etc)

SSRI Drugs (Specific Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) = Prozac (circa 1988), Aropax, Lovan, Luvox, Zoloft, Cipramil, Lexapro help to hold your Serotonin levels together and prevent the hormone/chemical from wasting away. But it does NOT help to produce more Serotonin.

Herb = St John's Wort acts like a S-NRI (Serotonin-Noradrenalin Reuptake Inhibitor) and holds the Serotonin & Noradrenalin levels together. It does NOT help the production of Serotonin like Passiflora does.

S-NRI Drug = Efexor helps the same way as St John's Wort but typically with side-effects such as Libido drop, GI Tract, Insomnia

SNRI Drug (Specific Noradrenalin Reuptake Inhibitor) = Edronax helps to hold the Noradrenalin level together (another 'happy brain chemical' which is stimulated for a couple of hours by Gym work, Boxing, Swimming etc)

D-Blocker Drugs = Xyprexa, Risperdal, Solian help to hold the brain chemical called Dopamine (the other happy brain chemical) together; but with side-effects.

l-Tyrosine (natural amino acid derived from walnuts) and Phenylalanine cross the blood brain barrier to help produce Noradrenaline and Dopamine.

The Hoffer-Osmond Diagnostic Test (Uni Saskatchewan) helps to detect deficiencies of Serotonin, Noradrenalin and Dopamine and by how much! Practitioners trained to use this are in Sydney and Melbourne. It will also pick up damage done by drugs like Marijuanha (pot, weed, dope), Ice, MDMA, Speed, Ecs, Heroin (smack, hammer), LSD (trips). Primarily, the HOD Test is used to detect the chemical problems that are passed down from father > son > son or from mother > daughter > daughter ie Serotonin etc.

Bipolar Depression is genetically different and its detection/diagnosis is different. But hey, that's another story.

Tez

[DAS KAMU]

Mate,

Maybe try something like a Hypnotist, I did it for drinking a couple of years ago, I was a mad drinker getting out on it 4-5 nights a week, it worked I still drink but way way less.

Well there you go.

OZ

Maybe she needs to just get to the root of her anger and attidude

something may have happend way back that subconsious now?

as the old man said "there is a reason for everything"

i tried a hypnotist to try and get over some s$%t i had been witness to years ago

i went under for a few seconds and punched him for no reason

only softly though

[Iron Chef]

Terry please tell me that you copy-and-pasted that! I got lost after hearing St John had a wart...

Awesome stories, guys - thanks for having the guts to share them. It's really interesting to hear your experiences.

[Guilt-Toy]

Finally. Someone with a clue.

Get rid of her. Why do you deserve to put up with that bullshit? if you are a man you will get rid of it and find something worth while.

She will realise she is f**ked up and get help and sort herself out on her own then she will reaslise she missed out and will come running back, but you will not be interested because you found someone worth your time who respects you.

if you don't.. live single and play with cars. works with me. remember when they come running back you can use them as f**k buddy's!! its great. what once was a real burden on my life is now just... well.. free sex.

give her the flick

find a chick that isnt mental

best thing you will every do

[NZM.031]

r34kid.... restecp!!