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I took a friend who owns an A4 1.8T for a spin in my car, and he was blown away (like, "holy shit!" type stuff :wave:) My R33 only had around 185rwkw at the time. He also took me for a spin in his A4 and it didn't seem all that quick so I could understand why he was so impressed. But then, I've never gone for a ride in a stock Skyline before so who knows :)

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I dissagree, stock for stock a skyline feels way beefier than a 1.8T A4.

Im just getting happier with the level of power I have now, which includes a chip to up the boost, exhaust, electric fan kit and air filter. It *probably* makes around 155kw at the fly.

So a stock skyline should still beat it, in the dry.

But there are some quick ones around.

I just looked up the A3 and A4 turbo specs and I can't figure out why anyone can think they are fast cars. They put out either 110 (A3) or 120 (A4) kw, that's at the flywheel. The only thing going for the A3 is its weight which is 1175kg which I guess isn't too bad for 110kw, but the A4 is a slug at 1415kg.

The 3.0 engine versions are a lot more respectable at 162kw, which is starting to get into the realms of "quick". But I would think that unmodified, any GTS-t would smoke any turbo A4, and probably an A3. Maybe the A4's that win aren't as unmodified as people think? Or maybe they had the 3.0 engine in them.

The A31.8T is NOT a quick car, well it is compared to an excel.

Lets get this straight.

The 1.8T engine is the only one worth much consideration.

The A3 and A4 use basically the same engine with the same output 110kw. These use a ko3 turbo.

In 1999 the A4 had upped boost and with variable timing i think, had 132kw.

With a chip all of these 1.8t's wheather they are an a3 or a4 will have ~150kw and 300nm of torque, from about 2500rpm.

The S3 has the same basic 1.8t engine (with a few stronger bits) but with a k04 turbo, the old S3's made 154kw, the new ones 165kw/280nm. With a chip these will make about 195kw/360mm.

The S4 is a 2.7litre v6 twin turbo using 2 k03 turbos combined (not sequential) factory these have 195kw/400nm torque 1850-3600 rpm.

With a chip these will make 250kw.

Then there is the rs4 which makes 280kw i think, its a 2.7litre but with k04 turbos instead of the k03's. Chipped these make 330kw.

A common mod in the A4 is if the turbo goes, replace it with a k04.

But what you skyline guys have to watch out for the A4's with garrett GT25's. These make around 250kw i think depending on the trim.

There is one A4 going around, no need to tell you specs just look at this timeslip:

Fast A4

Any more questions?

Originally posted by Pekatu

Man i owned an Audi A4 Quattro turbo before my skyline, if you dont get an S4 you will be very dissapointed in the performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do a little bit of work to them and they arn't that slow. But are not as easy to mod as skylines. But then again what is!

The 4WD in the A4 is awesome.

They are a damn sight rarer than the 1,000,001 skylines on the road. That why I chose the A4 after having my heart set on a Skyline.

They are also comfy.

But no electric folding mirrors :)

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