Gt35r Vs Garrett T04z - Discussion (just Post In This Thread To Create A Database)

[unique1]

i was comparing simons 625hp not my own setup nick.

cerbera thats something i expected from you on a forum, just your style lol

borg warners are where its at

come on its a matter of personal preference i think, everyone has there own ideas of lag/power/fast.

[_Ryan_]

pretty much the same engine/turbo but one has 6-boost twin scroll and one has china manifold and a dodgy gate

shows what a well set up manifold/gate/boost controller combo can do...

Would it be possible to overlay a stock curve for those following at home?

[SimonR32]

cerbera thats something i expected from you on a forum, just your style lol

dont lie you know i give u shit to your face

[sky30]

Ah ic ic - makes more sense now

Would be interesting to see the GT35 on a good setup i think, one thing that's missing from the comparo's haha

Here is a graph of my GT35 with .82 rear on a decent manifold setup

also i plotted it on brockas graph to compare, its the black line.

[SimonR32]

diff ratios dont seem to be the same and isnt yours a RB30 therefore totally useless comparison?!?

[fatz]

lol 3 litre will always win

always

some awsome power out of them all though

[R31Nismoid]

diff ratios dont seem to be the same and isnt yours a RB30 therefore totally useless comparison?!?

lol ye exactly - twice in as many days... stand back george

Thanks sky30 - but kinda... not really relevant unfortunately

[sky30]

Didnt realise that its a RB26, for some reason i thought brockas was a RB30det, That would explain why it seems so laggy to me. Oh well interesting comparison between rb30 and rb26.

Its a r32 gtr diff, 4.11 ratio, what are the ratios in the other graphs?

[R32-GTS]

Car should be running in a week or so. And i'll head to the plex again see if it can go decently into the tens on street tyres. To4z has the top end to get decently into the mid 130mph's. With the small things its had done to it this time round 650rwhp should be enough for mid tens on street tyres.

[Brockas]

I'd love to see a GT4088R compared with these things

lol give my bank balance time to recover after this change in setup first!!

I've now taken 2 people for a spin in my car. They both saw the graphs before going for a drive, and said the exact same thing. "It doesn't feel as laggy as it looks on the dyno plot".

Would love to have it snapping on boost hard, but I don't think my gearbox would like that...

[NYTSKY]

So i guess using E85 fuel would not be a usable comparison to these dyno graphs?

580rwhp will be achievable on my setup i think.

[R32-GTS]

Just looking at Pauls Graph compared to mine as a t04z to to4z comparison seems to be quite a bit of difference in response. They are both roughly based on speed vs hp and at say at 130kms pauls is making 220hp ish and mine is making almost 400hp at the same speed. Just an interesting comparison as mine didn't really feel laggy at all and should be better with the new setup of bigger valves and bits and pieces. As a comparison mine was running 27psi and i think pauls is 25psi so pretty close.

Edited December 25, 2009 by R32-GTS

[NYTSKY]

I think you can put it down to the boost control.

You can see in your graph the boost comes on hard where as Brockas is a bit lazier. A good boost controller makes all the difference.

[R32-GTS]

Maybe. It is an apexi wastegate but only a china manifold.

[SimonR32]

Car should be running in a week or so. And i'll head to the plex again see if it can go decently into the tens on street tyres. To4z has the top end to get decently into the mid 130mph's. With the small things its had done to it this time round 650rwhp should be enough for mid tens on street tyres.

LOL

no chance you will have it running in a week or so!!!

[N I B]

Indeed arguable. Effiecent range on the GT35 is probably 28 - 30psi and 35 + on t04z.

Brockas like most probably not keen to push to those levels.

All your graph comparo proves is that brockas china manifold / setup is crap compared to 6boost and your setup.

GT35 on your setup would have rocked.

LOL coming from the guy that never raced his 26 !!! Simon N has times you got wannabe ......

Final word

IN PERTH GT35 smashs the t04z on RB26. Best single t04z time is like 10.8 on a fully built motor ??

There is more then one GT35 RB26's quicker then that IN PERTH.

RockoGTR's 10.4 on Nexan Radials is a GT35 and China manifold. We are going to put it on E85 and MT Drag radials and try again.

[R32-GTS]

How much coin you gonna put on that marbles

[Brockas]

I think you can put it down to the boost control.

You can see in your graph the boost comes on hard where as Brockas is a bit lazier. A good boost controller makes all the difference.

I now have one of the best boost controllers on the market, the Blitz Dual SBC Spec R.

Unfortunately, it's my wastegate which is letting me down.

Simon, we overlayed yours versus mine and yours destroys my setup everywhere. It's on earlier due to the head porting, but yours snaps on boost so much harder. I think once I sort this wastegate issue it will change the midrange dramatically and also carry a few more HP to the top.

For now though, I'm going to see how long this $300 2nd hand box lasts... the fact that it lasted the dyno run means it's been good value so far...

[Butters]

Natto it will be interesting for me to see if your car can repeat the 627. That is a 4 year old dyno graph your clinging on to. Dyno's get worn, software updates and re-calibrated over that time.

[R32-GTS]

True i agree simmo so will see what happens.