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All this talk of warranties not being important to someone who pays $175-200 k for a car astounds me. Most people who can afford that haven't got to that situation by throwing money around irresponsibly. Yes I could probably find the money for expenses incurred from failures but why would I when there is a perfectly good warranty? Money better spent on something else. I agree that purchasing for competetive racing is different and that there is an extreme minority who have cash to waste but this is certainly not the 'overwhelming majority'.

As for the prices. My DMG premium price is locked in confirmed $175k delivery May 09. Only changes if LCT policies change. Also if you want to order the same car from gold coast nissan for delivery in August/September you will pay the same price, dealer confirmed.

Regarding launch control, If you really want it then I am sure after market guys will sort that out for you if warranty is no concern.

Agree with 'handbrake' - those who think people who buy a daily driver for $200K don't worry about warranty are quite simply 'off with the fairies'

well plenty of people shelled out over $100K for R34 GTRs when they were freshly imported and they had no warranty. and 10 years ago I would say $100K is easily equivalent to $170K today. Plus any new ferrari we are talking more than double that. I mean what's a base F430 these days? $400K?

How many Ferrari owners do you know have bought one fresh from the showroom and not worried about the after-sales support / warranty.

Even though there is a certain expectation that a $400K car will not fail on you; I'd hate to be shelling out for say a new engine, gearbox, or whatever should something happen.

Imagine this... two mates buy GTRs - one is imported and one is Australia delivered. 6 months later, both cars encounter the same problem. Australian delivered one gets a free repair whilst the imported one has to shell out $20K. Who's feeling stupid now? Since this car is going to be Australian delivered, and mass delivered as well - how many people are really going to be able to tell the difference/s?

All that risk, for what? So you can say you've got one 6 months before everyone else?

Ditto the above comment. To buy this car without any kind of servicing support, warranty and access to spare parts from the manufacturer would be nothing short of madness. Sounds like 175k with full manufacturers warranty (and I believe an extended powertrain warranty is also available) from next April regardless of the exchange rate! Lock it in Eddie!

Edited by GT-R OZ
Ditto the above comment. To buy this car without any kind of servicing support, warranty and spare parts from the manufacturer would be nothing short of madness. Sounds like 175k with full manufacturers warranty (and I believe an extended power train warranty is also available) from next April regardless of the exchange rate! Lock it in Eddie!

Are you from Nissan Australia or something cause you sound like a sales man in all (only 6) posts you have made , Like i said turn the VDC off and BAM VOID WARRANTY, What good is that if you want to go to the race track? it is the only legal place you can see what the car is about, turn off VDC and OMG there goes Warranty again.

If you buy a R35 to be a styler and drive like a girl (which is against what GTR's have stood for since forever) you will never need warranty because it wont be abused enough to brake anything. Things don't blow up without being abused. Oh and lets not get started on Aus Nissans customer service, I would never take any Nissan i own to any Nissan dealer again, useless is an understatement, If i bought a spanker new 35 it would go to a reputable performance shop for servicing, Not a grubby Nissan Apprentice. So Really warranty is just a thing to make you buy the car and let you think you are backed by the factory, So everything smells rosy at the time of purchase, When in reality your on your own in the rain from the moment you push a little button

Oh and can you please tell me whats wrong with the normal font everyone else uses on SAU?

What are you, a 'grey importer' or something? Worried about your sales? You seem to be pretty hung up about the VDC button, oh no not the VDC button! Who gives a shit, the LC is being removed from the Series 2 models coming to Australia anyway and possibly with that, the removal of the VDC switch all together. Also I couldn't give a rats who buys a grey import or one from Nissan Aust. Its personal preference. So maybe take a Bex and relax old boy! By the way I'd be a bloody garbo before being a car dealer.

How's that font any better lol! :P

Edited by GT-R OZ
What are you, a 'grey importer' or something? Worried about your sales? You seem to be pretty hung up about the VDC button, oh no not the VDC button! Who gives a shit, the LC is being removed from the Series 2 models coming to Australia anyway and possibly with that, the removal of the VDC switch all together. Also I couldn't give a rats who buys a grey import or one from Nissan Aust. Its personal preference. So maybe take a Bex and relax old boy! By the way I'd be a bloody garbo before being a car dealer.

How's that font any better lol! :D

Hit a soft spot did I ?

The importance of VDC ? Well i drive with VDC Off, like many other people do. It dont mean im going to do anything stupid, if i dont want VDC ON my warranty is void, which is just stupid, im sure you'll agree on that.

Ok so your not are car dealer then, but going by your last sentence regarding the font my guess is School holidays have started early.

Again the VDC button. Perhaps you should take your grievance with this to Nissan Japan, you know the people who actually design and build the car! You do actually like the car don’t you lol? Also I do agree the whole VDC/LC issue has been a balls up, probably why they’re having to make some changes hey! If the whole VDC issue is causing you some sleepless nights in your caravan maybe give Carlos Ghosn a call and voice your concerns, I’m sure he’ll take your advice on board. :D

I like the Nissan Japan car, it has launch control :D FULLY WARRANTED LAUNCH CONTROL.

Another thing I have noticed about this thread, the people that are FOR the buying of a Nissan Aus warranted R35 all seem to be fairly new. I've given them the benefit of the doubt that the could actually afford one.

All the people AGAINST the Nissan Aus warranted R35 are the SAU members that have dealt with Nissan Aus and their crap for years.

Just because you have the money for one (again, assumption), it doesn't mean you're right. It's fairly well known that the Nissan Aus warranty is shit house, even if they do train up one bloke and make a special area for your R35 in the shop, I really don't think it will be that impressive.

Haltech have already broken one, Just Jap has been racing one for about a year and now own 3, and I can name several other shops that engage in the love of the R35.

Nissan Aus (I could be very wronge here, but it's what I know/assume) has had 1 (?) R35 that they aren't allowed to breathe on?

Sometimes, warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on when the knowledge base is a 40 page booklet.

It's interesting in that checking 1 car website here in Japan there are over 50 GTR's up for sale and I'd say there be a hell of alot more nation wide..Premiums in the high 7million yen..Few months back that would of been fair price in oz but current exchange rates thats around 130,000 just to buy let alone import plus taxes.

From what I've seen here personally, theres a hell of alot of crew that have bought the GTR and modified them for weekend racing. I think its just the same addiction to power that all Skyline/GTr owners have ..that need/ want to go faster...

Japans the same as anywhere finacially, if not worse, the strong yen is really hurting local businesses big time but the guys who have bought GTR's here are the same skyline nutters who loved the 32,33 & 34 and they are modifying them and throwing some hefty coin on them...modifications for them arent cheap. Even a set of snow tyres (mandatory where I am in winter) is 600,000yen (over $10,000 aussie at the mo) I've seen more modified 35's here than I have seen standard...wouldnt their warantee's be void!

My biggest concern would be if I bought one here for myself and sent it back to oz..could I get the service that you would get in Japan..basically are nissan oz up to scratch..I think the guys who are doing the testing on the R35's in oz would have a far better idea than the local aussie nissan dealer.

Edited by elrodeo666
I like the Nissan Japan car, it has launch control :D FULLY WARRANTED LAUNCH CONTROL.

Another thing I have noticed about this thread, the people that are FOR the buying of a Nissan Aus warranted R35 all seem to be fairly new. I've given them the benefit of the doubt that the could actually afford one.

All the people AGAINST the Nissan Aus warranted R35 are the SAU members that have dealt with Nissan Aus and their crap for years.

Just because you have the money for one (again, assumption), it doesn't mean you're right. It's fairly well known that the Nissan Aus warranty is shit house, even if they do train up one bloke and make a special area for your R35 in the shop, I really don't think it will be that impressive.

Haltech have already broken one, Just Jap has been racing one for about a year and now own 3, and I can name several other shops that engage in the love of the R35.

Nissan Aus (I could be very wronge here, but it's what I know/assume) has had 1 (?) R35 that they aren't allowed to breathe on?

Sometimes, warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on when the knowledge base is a 40 page booklet.

All people are new to a forum at one point are they not? I can afford an R35 and have one on order.

Yes this is my first Nissan so I will not speak for or against their service record. I assume some people who aren't happy with them may not be happy because they drive grey imports not supported by Nissan Australia (with the exception of the R32 of course). I hope the experience may be different for nissan Australia backed GTRs but I too am suspicious of their ability to go from servicing pulsars to servicing the GTR. They take a 2 week course or something to become the dealership's 'GTR certified mechanic'.

At the end of the day this is a great car. I am sure going to enjoy driving it. If Nissan are as bad as people report I certainly will not feel the need to defend them and I will let you all know.

Edited by handbrake
All this talk of warranties not being important to someone who pays $175-200 k for a car astounds me. Most people who can afford that haven't got to that situation by throwing money around irresponsibly. Yes I could probably find the money for expenses incurred from failures but why would I when there is a perfectly good warranty? Money better spent on something else. I agree that purchasing for competetive racing is different and that there is an extreme minority who have cash to waste but this is certainly not the 'overwhelming majority'.

As for the prices. My DMG premium price is locked in confirmed $175k delivery May 09. Only changes if LCT policies change. Also if you want to order the same car from gold coast nissan for delivery in August/September you will pay the same price, dealer confirmed.

Regarding launch control, If you really want it then I am sure after market guys will sort that out for you if warranty is no concern.

Exactly. Its a bit of a different story when your the person who's forked out $200k or in a position to for a car. Not having warranty is a big issue regardless of cost. If something pops its a major investment of time and money at your own expense to get it back on the road again.

Is that your supra in the background? :(

Yes

actually, he's right. the guys with 200k to blow on a car, often go ahead and void their warranties by modding to their tastes.

seen it plenty of times. doesnt phase them a bit.

if you're gonna be fragile about a 200k car, then you cant really afford it :)

Correct

Sorry but you speak of a very small minority when it comes to that (I myself being part of that minority) but most people with 200K+ cars don't "go ahead and void their warranties'...

Driving a car like its supposed to be driven is one thing - you see a lot of exotic owners do that. How many Ferraris or Lambos do you see around where the owner has deliberately gone and voided the warranty?

Agree with 'handbrake' - those who think people who buy a daily driver for $200K don't worry about warranty are quite simply 'off with the fairies'

How many Ferrari owners do you know have bought one fresh from the showroom and not worried about the after-sales support / warranty.

Even though there is a certain expectation that a $400K car will not fail on you; I'd hate to be shelling out for say a new engine, gearbox, or whatever should something happen.

Imagine this... two mates buy GTRs - one is imported and one is Australia delivered. 6 months later, both cars encounter the same problem. Australian delivered one gets a free repair whilst the imported one has to shell out $20K. Who's feeling stupid now? Since this car is going to be Australian delivered, and mass delivered as well - how many people are really going to be able to tell the difference/s?

All that risk, for what? So you can say you've got one 6 months before everyone else?

Just so everyone is clear, exactly what minority are you referring to?

Are you aware that Italian supercars didnt even come with warranty until quite recently? From memory it was the mid 90's although i may be slightly wrong, nevertheless - that means ALL supercar buyers were buying the cars with no warranty as they were sold as just that, supercars. Look at a Burrows day, open circuit and rego plates left on driving brand new F430's and alike. The typical buyer for those cars knew if the car broke (and the old ones did, so do the new ones for that matter), the bills would be large and be their responsibility. Early last year I met a person who owns a Diablo, its been through 3 clutches, 2 gearboxes and numerous amount of smallish parts (alterators, starter motors etc), he just accepts it as part of ownership (this was when it was new and as a new car buyer if a warranty was offered he wouldve made Lambo pay through the nose, last i spoke to him he doesnt drive it at all anymore). The dealer who sold him the car would fix it without hesitation as they made a mint from him, but the owner paid the bill and didnt have a problem paying the bill. Exactly the same as a grey R35.

2 mates buy 2 GTR's; Yes i agree there will be a decent amount of these things on the roads if Nissan have their way (not exactly mass delivered, they're not going to be like commodores), but people will know the difference when it comes to spending the coin. It will be exactly the same as Aus delivered R32 GTR's, buyers who want the ADM will look for them, know what to look for, and pay the price. Same will go for the R35 buyers who want JDM, they will be buying the JDM for their own reasons, and will know what to look for to seperate the JDM's from ADM's, if the only thing they want is launch control, then good for them :)

Also dont think Nissan will have the R35's here in 6 months, or anything close to that - they still dont have approval, and I personally hope they never do.

People who buys 200K car, chases the warranty for 2 reasons. time and money. A non modify exotic fetches alot more at time of trade in and a car with warranty, all you have to do is drop it of at the dealership, they do the running around and give u something else to drive, maybe not the same thing, but it gets you around.

As for JDM car that is priced similarly to a locally delivered one is a no brainer. I wonder how much has nissan dialled in as the cost of the warranty to locally delivered car. That should be sum and then some more as a discount on a JDM car..

I hate to point it out, but when a large organisation target a particular group or business, if they havent sent u broke, they probably have wounded u in ways u yet to realize.

People saying that you void a warranty by turning the VDC off are misinformed.

In the United States (where we do not live) Nissan will deny a warranty claim on a drivetrain component if they can prove using the past 36hrs of recorded data in the black box device the owner was abusing the car.

One of the details recorded in that is VDC state as well as other indicators as to what the car was doing. Suffice to say it is easy for them to combine several points of data and say you repeatedly launched the car X many times in the past 36hours of driving.

They will then make a judgement call and possibly deny the warranty claim.

To continue to spread such baseless rumours and consider them fact is quite annoying really especially on this forum where you're probably a Nissan enthusiast...

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