Coilover Upgrades

[evil_weevil]

Hey guys,

I have tried a seach...

But what I'm after is some advice...

Im looking at getting either Tein flex or the cusco zero 2's

Has anyone had any experience with these 2 coilovers? pro's and con's?

What are they like for track use?

Currently I have bilsteins shocks, whiteline springs - these are a good package for street, but as the car is being used more

and more for track use, Im looking to get either one of these two.

Or is there any others I should look at besides these 2 types?

Are the ISC/d2/g4 coilovers any good for track work?

Cheers,

Chris

[RRB20ASH]

Hey guys,

I have tried a seach...

But what I'm after is some advice...

Im looking at getting either Tein flex or the cusco zero 2's

Has anyone had any experience with these 2 coilovers? pro's and con's?

What are they like for track use?

Currently I have bilsteins shocks, whiteline springs - these are a good package for street, but as the car is being used more

and more for track use, Im looking to get either one of these two.

Or is there any others I should look at besides these 2 types?

Are the ISC/d2/g4 coilovers any good for track work?

Cheers,

Chris

Hey,

havent had those 2 brands before but I have BuddyClub, they squeek a little and they're a little expensive but they are good, and are really stiff in the back end.... I dont know where you are, but there is a place in QLD that sells pretty good brands like that its called 999automotive its in beaudesert. There are so many brands to choose from when it comes to suspension.. its a painful decision have fun.

Ashleigh

[Roy]

Cusco zero 2's are not that flash and sure as hell not worth the money they ask for them. The Teins seem to be a pretty safe bet, all roudn flexible and good quality shock.

I was in a similar position regardign a change from Whiteline street package and going to the Teins. I went Teins as thats what is better supported in club car circles down here in Vic. With Heasmans and Bilsteins beign so well supported in NSW then i atrip to them to get your current Bilsteins tweaked or up spec'd should be seriously considered.

[evil_weevil]

Cheers Roy and Ash.

Roy - Ive spoken to Jon who works for bilstein and has given me a few options, its just hard to choose!

[DrewII]

i'v got the tein super streets which are excellent for mostly street with light track work. however additional sway bars do harden the ride and make them an excellent track option.

i know people with the flex's and they are a better track setup for our cars. theyre a lot harder. better for track not so good for street.

[evil_weevil]

Sweet, that would be more suited for me then!

[ISC-Performance]

ISC N1's are a fantastic coilover for the money. If you have any questions feel free to send me a pm/email etc. If you have a big budget we also sell DMS coilovers for $3000+.

Thanks,Ryan

Edited December 11, 2008 by ISC-Performance

[djr81]

Why not keep the Bilsteins & run them with Eibach springs? That is what I did.

[Roy]

Because a spring is a spring is a spring...within reason. So changing the spring rate isnt address the whole situation. Provied the shocks all come out and the increased spring rate is accompanied by a change to the shock valving then i am confident the Bridgestones would be great. Being in Sydney i think this is your best option.

[Bullet32]

I personally use the TEIN super streets and they are a good comprimise for ride comfort / street use and some track use, they're a bit too soft if youre looking to pick up every split second possible on the track though.

A good mate of mine uses HSD-HR's and they are awesome value for money (he's a whole second quicker around Wakefield with less power than me), they're really stiff though so not good for street use.

Have a look at - http://www.otomoto.com.au/ for prices on HSD's

[djr81]

Because a spring is a spring is a spring...within reason. So changing the spring rate isnt address the whole situation. Provied the shocks all come out and the increased spring rate is accompanied by a change to the shock valving then i am confident the Bridgestones would be great. Being in Sydney i think this is your best option.

Sorry I should have made myself clearer.

When I changed from a Whiteline spring to an Eibach I changed the spring rate because the Whitelines were too soft for track work. The upside is that the Eibach spring is a lighter spring than the Whiteline - about 4 kg between the four - this despite having a higher rate. Also you can select from a wide range of rates whereas with the Whiteline you are stuck with one.

You can revalve the Bilsteins if you want/need to. SK didn't recommend doing so going from a SK/Whiteline package to a 5kg front /4kg rear on an R32 Gt-R.

So you MAY find it possible to change to a harder Eibach spring & keep your (unmodified) dampers for quite a bit less money than shelling out for a Tein or similar package.

Edited December 11, 2008 by djr81

[evil_weevil]

Thanks for all the replies guys, its certainly alot to think about!!

Just throwing this one out there....

The D2, G4 and ISC type coilovers - how would these compare with just the tein super streets?

Or would these be pretty much similar?

Just throwing it out there for a bit of discussion!

[carbon S]

Thanks for all the replies guys, its certainly alot to think about!!

Just throwing this one out there....

The D2, G4 and ISC type coilovers - how would these compare with just the tein super streets?

Or would these be pretty much similar?

Just throwing it out there for a bit of discussion!

I'm not so sure about the ISC, but the D2 and G4 are very stiff, my personal choice would be the Super Street.

[Kaido_RR]

i ran d2 in my r33 (track-spec ones);

the only thing i have them to compare to are my current setup tein type RS; and as you can guess the tein are miles ahead of the d2 in everyway.

having said that i found the d2 to be a good entry level coilover for the track (i did drift and few mc days) but they very bumpy on the street, i find the type rs to be less bumpy then the d2 (if i remember right my d2 had some crazy spring rate like 14/16)

[NYTSKY]

HSD HR are a good coilover. That would be my choice if you didnt have a big wad of cash to spend.

My Tein Flex have been sitting in a box for 4 months

[evil_weevil]

Want to sell them dave?? LOL

[Muz]

Love my Tein Type Flex. Changed spring rates and valving (all done by Fulcrum on the chassis dyno) and believe that I now have the ultimate ride for street. If I need to adjust for track work the EDFC has plenty of adjustability in it.

Either of your selections would be good.

cheers

[Beer Baron]

the tein super streets will be a downgrade from what you have. they are the cheapest entry level teins are a twin tube shock about on par with the factroy GTST gear. the bilsteins you already have are mono-tube just not adjustable.

I wouldn't bother 'upgrading' to anything less than tein MONO-flex as at least they are mono-tube. but if you really want something better look towards some tein type RS or type RA. they are monotube, circuit oriented suspension, and have all alloy damper body, lots of height adjustment and the valving and springs are chosen and set-up with circuit use in mind. unlike the mono-flex which are more street oriented. be careful with flex vs mono-flex too. the old flex were twin tube, then they had mono-flex, but I believe the new flex are mono-tube, but it would pay to make sure of what you're getting.

imo D2, G4, HSD, ISC etc are a waste of time. I've never driven a car with a set that I thought was that good. and they will certainly be a step backwards from what you have now. and yes I even have a set in one of my cars (silvia). I forget which type though, i think HSD.

the other good options out there are some good ohlins dampers which are quite cheap out of japan. and if you are buying springs seperately look at some swift springs. they are japanese, and good gear and not too expensive either.

now that the AUD is so weak against the yen and USD it may be worth looking at local options which are now competetive on price. maybe talk to murray coote (he does pro-flex gear) who makes very good gear, or jamie drummond (DMS) also good stuff and has some more affordable options than the coote stuff. they both make shocks for lots of top cars in all types of aus motorsport.

[jay1]

not big fan of coil overs to bumpy

[Cassbo]

not big fan of coil overs to bumpy

Usually not an issue on the track, unless you are off the track and in the dirt.

Chubbeh... I suggest you get Tein, simply because they are Jap-spec and green. Everyone knows green jap-spec coilovers are ftw lol

On a serious note, if and when you get new coilovers, let me know. I might know someone interested in putting them in another boat