ian_and1 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 ok cut a long story short, have recently just installed a KKR430 on my car, now we have been having a few problems with the KKR430 just not been up to scratch, so it's getting sent back for a new one, now they have asked me if i would like to go up to the 480 ? just wondering pro/cons with going to the 480, it will be on a R34 neo, any help would be great thanks KKR 430 KKR 480 p.s yes i have used the search button Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 And what didnt the search button answer exactly? Being there is a 8+ page thread on the 480... Being more specific might help for a better answer... otherwise i reckon the other thread will almost certainly answer your questions Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygtsnt Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 from my experience there are no pros for the kkr turbos. i have had too many problems with them in such short little. such as internal wastegate jamming open, oil seals on the turbine shaft failing. i bought it brand new, and no later than 1 month, i had to send it back cause the wastegate had jammed open, was only running 14 psi. no sooner had i put it back on, within a month i had to send it back again to get the seals replaced. and only 3 months ago the seals went again, so i threw it in the rubbish and spent the money on a garrett gt3030r which is what i should have done in the first place and saved a lot of time and hassles. i'm not saying all kkr turbos are them same. but i am not buying one ever again. they are just cheep chinese turbos. you get what you pay for here. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_and1 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 And what didnt the search button answer exactly?Being there is a 8+ page thread on the 480... Being more specific might help for a better answer... otherwise i reckon the other thread will almost certainly answer your questions ok question is what one should i go with the 430 or 480, want half decent power and not heaps of lag from my experience there are no pros for the kkr turbos. i have had too many problems with them in such short little. such as internal wastegate jamming open, oil seals on the turbine shaft failing. i bought it brand new, and no later than 1 month, i had to send it back cause the wastegate had jammed open, was only running 14 psi. no sooner had i put it back on, within a month i had to send it back again to get the seals replaced. and only 3 months ago the seals went again, so i threw it in the rubbish and spent the money on a garrett gt3030r which is what i should have done in the first place and saved a lot of time and hassles.i'm not saying all kkr turbos are them same. but i am not buying one ever again. they are just cheep chinese turbos. you get what you pay for here. if I had the money to upgrade I wouldn't be keeping mine either Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Well the info is all there - you've gotta look @ the results, and decide what you want. No-one can decide for you really... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinekid Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 ok let me get this straight.... u own an r34 gtt and u brought a kkr..... for shame Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0WRB Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 simon is correct lol shame on you i own a kkr480 have for over a yr n half now runs 20psi daily and done over 25,000kms but if ur not after lagg then i wouldnt get one i dont see 20psi until around 4500rpm or bit later and they are only good for around 240-250rwkw which isnt much power at all.... sell it and get a decent turbo! cause ur only gonna run into more troubles there biggest one wastegate issues. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4321898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_and1 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 simon is correct lol shame on youi own a kkr480 have for over a yr n half now runs 20psi daily and done over 25,000kms but if ur not after lagg then i wouldnt get one i dont see 20psi until around 4500rpm or bit later and they are only good for around 240-250rwkw which isnt much power at all.... sell it and get a decent turbo! cause ur only gonna run into more troubles there biggest one wastegate issues. haha would love to sell it and not use one but as not having much money at the moment sort of restricts what i can do cos i have to change the dump etc over again and that's gonna cost more money Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4322311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 decent power & not much lag & KKR turbocharger is a contradiction sell the turbocharger and buy a well proven unit HKS 2530, HKS GT-RS, Garrett (many equivs), and so on... sorry but you wont get what you want with the KKR range and the 480 will have more lag (ie; larger housing and wheels) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4322333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I have a KKR 480 (on a RB25DET), and it sucks arse. I'd be looking maybe a Holset or a Garrett replacement for mine, and given that even highflows can make around the same power as these, why would you bother? Surely you'd almost be going backwards with a NEO motor and one of these turbos as well! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4322462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaslide Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 from my experience there are no pros for the kkr turbos. i have had too many problems with them in such short little. such as internal wastegate jamming open, oil seals on the turbine shaft failing. i bought it brand new, and no later than 1 month, i had to send it back cause the wastegate had jammed open, was only running 14 psi. no sooner had i put it back on, within a month i had to send it back again to get the seals replaced. and only 3 months ago the seals went again, so i threw it in the rubbish and spent the money on a garrett gt3030r which is what i should have done in the first place and saved a lot of time and hassles.i'm not saying all kkr turbos are them same. but i am not buying one ever again. they are just cheep chinese turbos. you get what you pay for here. did you get it from ebay or otomoto and how much did you pay Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0WRB Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 only place that sell genuine kkr turbo's is otomoto all them ebay stores are ripoff's which = junk that will fall apart/break in first few weeks/months Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_and1 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 well found out why the turbo was *extra* crappy the waste gate hole was like a 16mm but ment to be like 25mm ? like i said before i *know* they are not that good but with not much funds atm gotta make do with what i can Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaslide Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 only place that sell genuine kkr turbo's is otomoto all them ebay stores are ripoff's which = junk that will fall apart/break in first few weeks/months yeah thats why i assked Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 only place that sell genuine kkr turbo's is otomoto all them ebay stores are ripoff's which = junk that will fall apart/break in first few weeks/months From my experience with the kkr's, the ottomoto ones aren't any better. I replaced a new one one twice whilst on the dyno, and it required extensive mods to make it hold boost. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaslide Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 i have heard some good things about them but probaly more bad there must just be some lucky peaple that get the good ones Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygtsnt Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 did you get it from ebay or otomoto and how much did you pay i got it from otomoto and i think for memory i paid around $1000 that was for turbo and the dump pipe to suit rb25det. i had kkr 480 and they are so laggy its funny. seriously. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_and1 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 i have heard some good things about them but probaly more bad there must just be some lucky peaple that get the good ones yeah i hear very mixed results about them i got it from otomoto and i think for memory i paid around $1000 that was for turbo and the dump pipe to suit rb25det. i had kkr 480 and they are so laggy its funny. seriously. yeah think i might just stay with the 430 for the time been Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4323972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0WRB Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 From my experience with the kkr's, the ottomoto ones aren't any better. I replaced a new one one twice whilst on the dyno, and it required extensive mods to make it hold boost. yes holding boost is there bad factor aswell as being very laggy and not making that good of power.. best bet is to run a 50mm external gate straight off the scroll then u wont have any dramas there a cheap turbo for 250rwkw though but id go a gt35r or gt30 anyday over it if i had the chance again lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4324044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylinekid Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 wats ur mate running.. is he using a kkr aswell justin Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249134-kkr-430-vs-kkr-480/#findComment-4324213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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