lammy426 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 i was just looking through this thread and saw the discussion about lammy426's power figures. you have to remember he is in england, and it's winter over there, so nice chilly air temps which will give much better power. if he was to bring it to australia and run it on a 30 degree day it would ping it's arse off and he would be making much less power. also lammy, you say "at the hubs" does that mean you are using a hub dyno? if so, they are known to give different results to wheel dynos this one was done in winter but it was in a heated workshop,hub dyno's are more accurate than a wheel dyno ,and don't forget tiger white still as 10whp more than me but i don't know if theres much temp difference from aus to nz,anyway i still have a few bits to do so i might crack his record out of an rb25de+t Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5104385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 hub dynos might be more accurate than wheel dynos, but they often give totally different results. basically my point is, unless the 2 cars are run on the same dyno on the same day and tied down the same, you can't really compare them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5106568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 hub dynos might be more accurate than wheel dynos, but they often give totally different results. basically my point is, unless the 2 cars are run on the same dyno on the same day and tied down the same, you can't really compare them. very true ,but i do look at gtst's dyno'd on the same one as mine,the one i have talked to at .85 bar only get around 280bhp ish ath. i've set my goal at 345+ same as tiger white, i don't know if i should get a topmount or a hybrid turbo my tuner said he can get more more power with a bigger wastegate because its creating heat what do you think, oh and he loves driving my car because theres no turbo lag and it'll outdo a gtst with more bhp,not top speed of course as i still have the 4.3 diff in Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5107637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 come on lads what do you think is the best route hybrid standard fitment or a topmount gt3582r bear in mind it is a high comp motor rb25de+t Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5107960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dori34 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hiflow stocker, will produce around 280rwkw with stock response Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5107967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Hiflow stocker, will produce around 280rwkw with stock response my hiflo stocker arrived i'm going to alter the wastegate and actuator abit before i fit it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5121483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 my hiflo stocker arrived i'm going to alter the wastegate and actuator abit before i fit it all done and dyno'd,now we have 395bhp ath at 15.3 psi,i nearly fell over when he told me ,well pleased Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5208656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34 -_- Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 lets see how long it takes for it to blow up lol. Whatd u do to it and how much mulaa did u have to throw at it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5208762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 lets see how long it takes for it to blow up lol.Whatd u do to it and how much mulaa did u have to throw at it? just made the wastegate bigger and fitted a collins 12 psi adjustable actuator,my tuner was just concerned about the hg blowing,what is mulaa Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5209287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34 -_- Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) mulaa (moola) = money lol. Turbo? internals? intake plenum?. You basically bolted on some parts and made close to 400hp?! Edited May 1, 2010 by R34 -_- Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5209358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 mulaa (moola) = money lol.Turbo? internals? intake plenum?. You basically bolted on some parts and made close to 400hp?! this is what i've done over 4 years http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142304 and with buying the car completely standard for £1905 and the mods have cost about £4000 with mapping Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5209394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggroman Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Hey all Thought I would post up mine as I got the car back from unigroup today.. A few little problems holding me back on power but should be an easy fix. Model - R34 25GT Engine - RB25DE Modifications / Parts Used - R34 stock Turbo, Injectors, Manifold, 3 inch Dump/front pipe, Kakimoto Full Mega N1 exhaust, Walbro fuel pump Engine Management Used - Power Fc with hand controller for R34 Neo Fuel Used - BP Ultimate 98 Boost Used - 7 PSI Dyno Tune Results - 160.5 KW at 6500 RPM Misc- Went with the Power FC for the complete solution although there are a few problems that need to be sorted out. Like blocking the signal that looks for the TCS and sorting out how to operate the Solenoid that controls the valve in the Inlet manifold (if anyone knows a way to do this please let me know) Costs - Parts: Aprox $2500, Labour: Free as I did all the work myself and Tune: $750 Allover things went really well.. A few unexpected problems, My VCT is switched off atm as its not getting a consistent amount of voltage so thats killing some power, Boost controller needs to get pulled apart to see what the problem is with it not sending the signal to the solenoid.. The only other real problem is the Valve solenoid thing in the throttle body/manifold, Have stuck it in the Top end range so its always open which is killing some of the low down power.. Having replaced the Stock ECU there is no signal to control it as its not on the GTT model.. If anyone else has had this problem before and found a way to solve it please let me know or if anyone can suggest some ways to control it im all ears. Once these few problems are sorted It will push out an easy 180+ with real good torque (dont have the exact specs as its not tuned.) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5217114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-DAWG Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 Hey all Thought I would post up mine as I got the car back from unigroup today.. A few little problems holding me back on power but should be an easy fix.Model - R34 25GT Engine - RB25DE Modifications / Parts Used - R34 stock Turbo, Injectors, Manifold, 3 inch Dump/front pipe, Kakimoto Full Mega N1 exhaust, Walbro fuel pump Engine Management Used - Power Fc with hand controller for R34 Neo Fuel Used - BP Ultimate 98 Boost Used - 7 PSI Dyno Tune Results - 160.5 KW at 6500 RPM Misc- Went with the Power FC for the complete solution although there are a few problems that need to be sorted out. Like blocking the signal that looks for the TCS and sorting out how to operate the Solenoid that controls the valve in the Inlet manifold (if anyone knows a way to do this please let me know) Costs - Parts: Aprox $2500, Labour: Free as I did all the work myself and Tune: $750 Allover things went really well.. A few unexpected problems, My VCT is switched off atm as its not getting a consistent amount of voltage so thats killing some power, Boost controller needs to get pulled apart to see what the problem is with it not sending the signal to the solenoid.. The only other real problem is the Valve solenoid thing in the throttle body/manifold, Have stuck it in the Top end range so its always open which is killing some of the low down power.. Having replaced the Stock ECU there is no signal to control it as its not on the GTT model.. If anyone else has had this problem before and found a way to solve it please let me know or if anyone can suggest some ways to control it im all ears. Once these few problems are sorted It will push out an easy 180+ with real good torque (dont have the exact specs as its not tuned.) Cara (MissR34) may be able to help with the variable length manifold solenoid that you speak of... reason I suspect so is because she is running a PowerFC on her R34 RB25DE NEO. Sounds good so far did your power curve taper off after 5500 RPM or is the power at 6500RPM your peak power? Well done doing all the work yourself, saves a hell of a lot in labour costs! Got pics of the engine bay? I'll eventually get around to getting another power run done. There's been GReddy EBC, Gearbox Rebuild and Catback Upgrade since the last power run so hopefully should see some improvement. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5217458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggroman Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Cara (MissR34) may be able to help with the variable length manifold solenoid that you speak of... reason I suspect so is because she is running a PowerFC on her R34 RB25DE NEO.Sounds good so far did your power curve taper off after 5500 RPM or is the power at 6500RPM your peak power? Well done doing all the work yourself, saves a hell of a lot in labour costs! Got pics of the engine bay? I'll eventually get around to getting another power run done. There's been GReddy EBC, Gearbox Rebuild and Catback Upgrade since the last power run so hopefully should see some improvement. I will have to check that out thanks N-dawg. Peak power is at 6100rpm then tapers off to about 140kw at about 7000. Ill attach the dyno sheet so u can check it out. I have a pic somewhere of the engine somewhere, just looks stock with all the stock piping etc.. just had to add a bit of 2.5" piping to reach the elbow onto the throttle body. I managed to fix the boost controller today which is good.. the vaccum hose had been pulled off the part inside the boost controller itself, just loosened the clamp holding it on slid it back and redid the clamps.. Yay for easy fixes EBC is a Blitz Dual SBC with 4 presets.. I should set them to 8-9-10-11 haha stupid stock turbo, need to get a GT-RS i thinks.. VCT will be getting fixed on the 18th when it goes back for a retune and up the boost.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5218632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Any reason for running that boost level? Did you try more boost to see what the result would be? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5218713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Also, I think your car would be SO good at the next Texi Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5218717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggroman Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Any reason for running that boost level? Did you try more boost to see what the result would be? Yeah the EBC was playing up and we couldnt figure it out so we could only use standard actuator pressure.. Gonna bump it up to 10 psi now that I fixed it then when the VCT is fixed up it will get a final tune. Will be looking at 180+ Ill get a torque curve as well to show.. Should be very fun at next Texi.. shame its soo far away.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5218857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Even 140 with hi comp and good sharp throttle response would be great Yeah you can thank AASA/Wakefield for the delay. I'm hanging to get back there aswel Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5218900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYTSKY Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Heres my long awaited (almost) finished product: + = = and good times We actually got it 5kw shy of 300 but wanted to make it safe as possible: @18psi this has a max knock of 20 which is nothing Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5227762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lammy426 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Heres my long awaited (almost) finished product: + = = and good times We actually got it 5kw shy of 300 but wanted to make it safe as possible: @18psi this has a max knock of 20 which is nothing nice wastegate,good work,whats 283kw in bhp and is that with standard rb25de internals and head gasket,thanks john Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/249186-nat-power-results-na-t-turbo-conversions-only/page/5/#findComment-5228051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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