Electric Cars

[RRB20ASH]

http://www.teslamotors.com/

what does everyone think about this?

[W0rp3D]

You dont download the latest top gear eps do you?

They tested it on there last show, some points i remember, it was extremely fast but handled like a bucket of water due to the eco friendly low resistance tyres and the extra 500kg worth of batteries it has to carry, both of the cars they had for testing either broke down or ran out of charge well before they should have, it costs 90,000 pounds, $220,000AU and it takes 16 hours to fully charge from empty.

While atm it has problems and is not feesable cars like this do pave the way for more practical, affordable and viable models in the future.

Edited December 19, 2008 by W0rp3D

[W0rp3D]

The test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg3GeUkGioU

The stigs hot lap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwZ0pIw1OCc

Edited December 19, 2008 by W0rp3D

[RRB20ASH]

thanks heaps that helped a lot. they make it sound so good lol.

[W0rp3D]

sales pitches always do, give it 5-10yrs and they will have sorted most of the problems and it may be worth it, the battery technology out of this may well be taken on by other electric car manufacturers as that is the biggest problem with electric cars.

[some_cs_student]

Battery replacement in most electric cars is often underestimated ($$$) wise by the dealers so be careful if you do go ahead...

[Johnny]

How many batteries again, 6000

Imagine this technology with hondas new hydrogen fuel cell; would work a treat! Anyone else shocked in awe over the new liquid hydrogen fuel cell? basically id expect in 10years to completely replace a-b transport whilst allowing ferrari, lamborghini and even us gtr drivers to keep be polically correct (not just theoretically) and enjoy a spirited petrol burn.

[VB-]

hydrogen is great in theory, but i just dont like the idea of driving an atom bomb. theres alot of safety stuff around saying there fine, but thats on the idea that you dont rupture the tank, they are 'safe' because there designed around the tank so you dont hurt it, but if you should somehow manage too, FKN BANG! thats my understanding of it....

i like the idea of leccy cars, but give it a few years. biggest problem with them is batteries. they're big, heavy, and expensive atm, but getting better

[W0rp3D]

Top gear is on top of that as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AUurBnLbJw

[Atomnaya]

lol, everytime i see or hear the word tesla it reminds me of the PC game Red Alert and the russian tesla coil. Just imagine a car which guarantees to give you an electric shock when you leave the car.

[madbung]

One of my favourite subjects, watch who killed the electric car and the short documentary in the extras.

It will explain the Californian zero emission policy..each manufacturer who wanted to sell cars in California had to have atleast 1 zero emissions vehicle in their range ect...It will also show how Texaco bought and buried battery technology to protected itself.

They did the same thing with trams (cable cars) over there, so the could sell more oil.

All GM EV1's were recalled and crushed.... So yeah they work, yes they can be mass produced economically and they also ripped the corvette of it's day a new one over the 1/4.

Backyard job drag

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F

http://www.evchargernews.com/CD-A/gm_ev1_w.../specs_main.htm specs, pricing ect

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Limited range (60-70 miles) and reliability in the first EV-1s to ship, but better (110 - 160 miles) later. Research says the average driving distance of Americans in a day is 30 miles or less and that 90% of Americans could use electric cars in their daily commute. Towards the end of the film, an engineer explains that, as of the interview, lithium ion batteries, the same technology available in laptops, would have allowed the EV-1 to be upgraded to a range of 300 miles per charge.

Edited December 20, 2008 by madbung

[sneakey pete]

  VB- said:

hydrogen is great in theory, but i just dont like the idea of driving an atom bomb. theres alot of safety stuff around saying there fine, but thats on the idea that you dont rupture the tank, they are 'safe' because there designed around the tank so you dont hurt it, but if you should somehow manage too, FKN BANG! thats my understanding of it....

There's some interesting and very intensive research going into non pressurised methods of storing hydrogen right now, by dissolving it into another material. holds good promise.

[VB-]

sounds interesting, havent heard much about it. if non pressurized then it i'd be more approving of it, if anyone cares lol

[sneakey pete]

  VB- said:

sounds interesting, havent heard much about it. if non pressurized then it i'd be more approving of it, if anyone cares lol

The basic idea is that, (chemistry stuff inbound), when something dissolves in a solvent (eg, salt in water), the salt gets ripped into pieces and put in between the water molecules, but because of the way it does it, the water molecules that are carrying the salt don't actually take up any more volume.

Using this principal, you can get a substance, get the hydrogen to dissolve into it without any volume change, and just withdraw hydrogen as needed. I'm not exactly sure how far they've come in the "no pressure" line of things, or if its been more focused (or only useful) in increasing the energy density at high pressures.

[RRB20ASH]

  sneakey pete said:

The basic idea is that, (chemistry stuff inbound), when something dissolves in a solvent (eg, salt in water), the salt gets ripped into pieces and put in between the water molecules, but because of the way it does it, the water molecules that are carrying the salt don't actually take up any more volume.

Using this principal, you can get a substance, get the hydrogen to dissolve into it without any volume change, and just withdraw hydrogen as needed. I'm not exactly sure how far they've come in the "no pressure" line of things, or if its been more focused (or only useful) in increasing the energy density at high pressures.

wow the depth of those sentences made my head hurt, but I kinda get it.....

lol

THANKS for all the opinions so far guys.