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well it looks like things won't change from now til the end of the season......so congrats on Jenson for winning the driver's championship, bad luck rubens, better luck next year. Also well done to Red bull for taking second in the constructor's.

Vettel still out-qualified and out reaced Mark. Only beaten because RBR had absolutely no strategy for Vettel... I don't know what they were thinking leaving him behind Massa all day. What was that going to achieve? Webber got home by 5 sec over his team mate, despite Vettel being held up by the Ferrari all race and doing many more laps than his team mate on the 2sec slower prime tyre. Would like to see the times from both RBR cars from the last handful of laps after Massa had to start coasting...

WTF was with the Ferrari almost runing out of fuel at the end? Do they only get a certain amount of fuel to use in a race, or did they just totally balls up the refuelling?

I was astounded with some of the terrible stategy calls. People are getting paid big bucks to get this right and use cumputer sims etc to help, yet they can still get it so wrong with us casual observers picking a bad strategy eerly and from a distance.

Huge kudos to Webber for that dice with Alonso early on, how he made that corneer I have no idea. Now Mark, you proved you could go that deep, now do it every lap and get a win fer Christ's sake!

I was watching the live timing and once clear of Massa Vettel was 1.8 to 2 seconds a lap quicker then Mark for the last 6 or so laps of the race.

Thing is though, Webber was being held up by Rubens at this point. Before arriving on his bumper Webber was doing 23s with higher fuel load to catch Rubens, but then slipped into the 55w, the same lap times as Rubens as he followed. For the laps after his second stop he was in the 23s.

Whilst Vettel was being held up by Massa, after the first round of pit stops Webber was behind the late stoppers, Hamilton etc and was not all that pacey, as soon as they pitted he was the quickest guy on the track just about every lap for about 16 lap. He made 32 seconds on Vettel an Massa in the second stint.

It wasnt just strategy, he raced like a "flamin champion" to get his 3rd. Vettel meanwhile proved he is human and even though having a far quicker car could not clear Massa.

Hey, i like Webber and try not to be one-eyed, but how can you say Vettel out raced Webber? Webber didnt lose positions off the start, Vettel went P2 to P4 in the first corner.

Webber fought off Alonso and had a great second stint punching out better lap after better lap as the fuel laoded and tyres improved...yet Vettel just stared at the tail pipe of the Ferrari. The fact that KERS cars are bad under brakes and not as quick mid corner, Vettel really should have put more pressure on Massa.

In my eyes Vettel had a shocker!

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