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Sorry I can't agree. I think the difference is that RBR have compromised Vettel with the race strategies they've adopted. IMHO (not trying to start a flame war) Vettel is a far superior driver than Mark

Vettel was hampered one race due to the pre-determined strategy (that should have been changed), Webber was hampered on one race when he was refueled 2 laps early. So your point is?

RBR strategies haven't been helpful to either driver on those occasions. If Vettel hadn't had such a slow middle stint last race (and he was slower than Webber) on similar fuel and tyres then he wouldn't have been bitching after the fact. Vettel was catching him at the end but he couldn't pass Button (earlier in the race) and he wasn't going to get past Webber either.

Vettel will be bitterly disappointed if he doesn't win tonite as he has placed himself in the box seat with his raw speed and healthy fuel load i will be cheering him on for a RBR 1-2 finish. He will only get better with more experience but at this point they are pretty close as race drivers, certainly there isn't a yawning chasm.

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Sorry I can't agree. I think the difference is that RBR have compromised Vettel with the race strategies they've adopted. IMHO (not trying to start a flame war) Vettel is a far superior driver than Mark

Funny thing is though, I can't remember MW slamming into the back of anyone and destroying their race...

Vettel is fast for sure, but he doesn't have the whole package atm. Webs beating him 5 out of 7 times this year proves that.

Also boo kimi, and LOL @ hamilton!

NISMO Grand Master

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For some reason, I'm really looking forward to tonight! Can't wait!

I saw an interview yesterday about Melb and next year and they said they will def do F1. So if there is a breakaway and they come to Aus, it more than likely wont be Albert Park.

They also quickly interviewed Tander and he basically said who cares if they break away, all the history is with F1 not the new series. True, but fark me who watches it cause of the history? If the teams go, the public will follow them, especially if all FOTA goes.

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You guys have obviously missed my point and I'm not that interested in starting debates in relation to Mark Webber, especially not with MW fan boys who are obviously so one eyed. Like I said on the previous page... I applaud your patriotic support for him however I will not join in with the rejoicing.

Where exactly did I state that Mark ran into the back side of someone and ruined their race? I also think that you're kidding yourselves if you think Kimi really did cost Mark the pole!

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I saw an interview yesterday about Melb and next year and they said they will def do F1. So if there is a breakaway and they come to Aus, it more than likely wont be Albert Park.

They also quickly interviewed Tander and he basically said who cares if they break away, all the history is with F1 not the new series. True, but fark me who watches it cause of the history? If the teams go, the public will follow them, especially if all FOTA goes.

I love the history in it, I've been watching F1 for 24 odd years now. Having said that I think Tander is kidding himself if he thinks that F1 will continue to have a following if the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW, RBR, STR and Brawn create a 'break away' series.... The history will follow because alot of the (recent) history was created by these teams that are united under FOTA.

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You guys have obviously missed my point and I'm not that interested in starting debates in relation to Mark Webber, especially not with MW fan boys who are obviously so one eyed. Like I said on the previous page... I applaud your patriotic support for him however I will not join in with the rejoicing.

Where exactly did I state that Mark ran into the back side of someone and ruined their race? I also think that you're kidding yourselves if you think Kimi really did cost Mark the pole!

You didn't say that he did....you just obviously missed the point I was trying to make with what I said. (Vettel the 'far superior' driver did slam into the back of Webber...)

Anyway start is in 15 mins :rofl: Hope it's a good race and go RBR!

dezz Grand Master

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Anyone know wtf happened with Kimi?

How the hell did Massa make 4 spots in the first round of stops...was it just that he stayed out those few laps extra or did I miss something else?

In 1 stop he got Trulli, Raikkonen, Button and Nakajima

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lol at Alonso having zero traction coming out of Club corner... Heidfeld cheats I swear, widest car on the friggen grid! :rofl:

Superb drive by Seb, was very masterful today. I won't use the term 'Schumacher-esque', but even in his youth, he is displaying qualities quite alike to the 7 times world champ..

Still think Mark has a better racing brain though, also uses his tyres better, but Seb has got the edge with raw speed...

Nice to see Rubens put 1 on Jenson! C'mon Rubinho! :)

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I understand the patriotism but i don't think mark can match vettel, for some reason vettel just seems to dominate, and have the right strategy.

And the times webber is running real nice and quick the strategy just doesn't seem to help him out, or he gets stuck behind some tosser and can't seem to pass until its too late.

Mark shows times of brilliance like the passing move on alonso few races back, things like that only appear once every few races with mark.

Vettel destroyed the rest of the pack, every lap +1 sec quicker, lap after lap after lap.

This new championship would be awesome, and if they have a race at surfers i am soo there !!!

it would be much better than that crap indy car.

Hopefully we see more aussie drivers in the new breakway series !!!

That would be real nice !!!

If the admin is under moto gp as suggested, imagine having a moto gp race AND a F1 race straight after

now that would be awesome !!!!

NISMO Grand Master

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I love the history in it, I've been watching F1 for 24 odd years now. Having said that I think Tander is kidding himself if he thinks that F1 will continue to have a following if the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW, RBR, STR and Brawn create a 'break away' series.... The history will follow because alot of the (recent) history was created by these teams that are united under FOTA.

Yep my sentiments exactly. The history is great, but people aren't going to watch no name teams just because Ferrari once ran in the same series.

They had a view poll on OneHD during the pre race, and 67% said they would follow the FOTA teams.

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