2009 F1 Season

[Beer Baron]

yeah it's bullshit in a number of ways. and roy is right. pickit is a double f**kup. no.1 he never should have agreed to crash to fix a race in the first place. and no.2 after doing it he then goes and dobs on everyone. what a fking retard. the day he drives in F1 again is the day I can bend between my legs and give myself a rim job. nice job at wrecking (well further wrecking) your F1 career you idiot. you were already doing a good job with sub par driving and constant whining but this has definitely sealed your fate.

the whole non-penalty on renault is just bullshit so instead they just fk flavio as hard as they can. can't say he didn't deserve some pretty harsh punishment though. he is clearly as dodgey as a $3 note.

[Roy]

Duplicated info........ I was astounded by what i reckon is a pretty epic ban on Briatorre.....

Hey i love Flav, but he farked up big time and got too clever for his own good. The penalty they have handed out affects a lot of people, teams and classes of the sport. So seems very heavy handed against Flav and seems everybody gets off easy. I wonder if this was because the info was so damning or another not so level headed ruling by our retards at the FIA?

[Marlin]

I think Flav is a pig of a man, but everything I've read about him has likely made that decision for me.

I'm thinking the FIA has simply avoided punishing renault because frankly the FIA needs every manufacturer they can get their hands on atm....

[Roy]

Any man that is that old and banged up yet still knocks up Heidi Klum plus all the other good things he has had in his stable....add to that the guy knew nothing of motorsport but through wheeling and dealing and the Beneton family got deeply involved in all things high level F1. I just like the guy because i wish i was him.

[ctjet]

10 Conclusions From Nelsinhogate

There were no winners only losers out of the Singapore race fixing 'scandal'. Nelson Piquet Junior may have been given Max Potter's cloak of immunity, but that won't get him a race drive.

1.Nelson Piquet Junior may not expect forgiveness, let's hope he doesn't expect another competitive race drive that his father doesn't have to pay for. NASCAR might be his best bet. They love drivers who crash, even ones that do it deliberately. And if you want, you can get fat and still drive.

2.The punishments handed down to the Renault team by the FIA seem more or less fair considering the severity of the crime. But you have to wonder what the penalty might have been if the team in question had been Mclaren? The Renault team's skullduggery was far in excess of anything that McLaren did during spygate in 2007 and they got a $100m fine. What's more - Renault's offence was only a year after they had been caught doing virtually the same thing as McLaren.

On the basis that McLaren got $100m for some industrial espionage, we should be talking in the $150m region for starters. However Max Mosley knows that if he did that, it would be curtains for the Enstone team and one less engine brand on the grid. His hands were tied...

3.Flavio should have been given a ban for five years not a lifetime. Considering we have a cherished former World Champion who is gagging to get back into a race seat who has caused two deliberate crashes to try and win two World Championships, it seems a bit odd that Flavio got a lifetime ban while all Michael had to do was join a road safety campaign. As with so many things FIA, the punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime, it seems to fit the individual.

4.The FIA are right to stop Briatore, or any other F1 team manager, from becoming a driver manager as well as a team manager. From now on it is common sense that you do one or the other.

5.Nelson Piquet Senior has now had it exposed in the international press that he asked Flavio Briatore to move his son from London to Oxford to keep him away from a 51-year-old 'friend'. Nice one, Dad.

6.Fernando Alonso should sue Nelson Piquet Senior for libel as Senior insisted that Alonso had known about the race fix. What's more, when he was asked to withdraw his remarks he did so very grudgingly, hinting very heavily 'he should have known what was going on with that strategy'.

As Andrew Davies said in Team-Mate Wars, even if Fernando had been in on the plan he probably would have expected Junior to crash it at Turn 13 on Lap 17.

And Alonso still had to work very hard for that win. Nelson's crash just gave Fernando a big advantage. As we saw from Sutil's later crash, another Safety Car could just as easily have wrecked it for Alonso and swung the advantage in someone else's favour.

7.Eddie Irvine and Derek Warwick are right to say that skullduggery has gone on in F1 since it began. There are not many team managers and drivers out their with a totally clear conscience. Alain Prost, who has been mooted as a potential new boss of Renault, condemned the Singapore racefix...but didn't he once crash into the side of Ayrton Senna deliberately at Suzuka? And what about when he asked the Ferrari mechanics to secretly transfer team-mate Nigel Mansell's chassis to him. He's not spotless.

Eddie Jordan has said the affair beggars belief, but then so does claiming you did a $150m deal with Vodafone via a mobile telephone from the back seat of a taxi. Scratch the surface...

8.Nelsinho won't be getting a Christmas card from Felipe Massa. Yet it's wrong to jump to the conclusion that had there been no accident in Singapore then Felipe would have been World Champion. In the following race, the Japanese GP at Mount Fuji, Massa made a desperate attempt to pass Lewis Hamilton on the opening lap with a wreckless move that was never going to work and which sent Lewis out of the points. Had Massa arrived at the GP with a Singapore win under his belt he would never have felt the need for such a rash move.

It's just another motor-racing 'what if'.

9.The words 'Nelson' and 'Piquet' will now form a verb, the meaning of which is to deliberately crash your car, i.e. "I thought, 'what the hell' and Nelson Piquet-ed it into her rear bumper."

10.The affair only reinforces the view that there needs to be a new broom at the FIA and that when Max Mosley retires, Ari Vatanen should take over. Most important is the consistent application of F1's rules. Had the Singapore race stewards enforced the rules that were so strictly adhered to in Belgium (about leaving the track) just two races previously, then Alonso would have been serving a drive-through not cheating his way to victory. Also, it was the poor framing of the Safety Car rules that led to Briatore and Symmonds being able to exploit a situation where cars couldn't pit for fuel when they needed to, without a penalty.

conclusion point 9 is epic

[TALBO]

Incredible... I really am amazed that Renault and Symonds both pretty much got off.

Ivan where did the above quote come from? Or is that your own work?

[ctjet]

www.planetf1.com baby

best f1 site around, only one with any kind of personality

anyway... in much more interesting news

Formula One 2010 calendar

Mar 14 - Bahrain (Sakhir)

Mar 28 - Australia (Melbourne, starting at 1700 local time)

Apr 4 - Malaysia (Sepang, starting at 1600 local time)

Apr 18 - China (Shanghai)

May 9 - Spain (Barcelona)

May 23 - Monaco (Monte Carlo)

May 30 - the sphincter of the universe (Istanbul)

Jun 13 - Canada (Montreal, provisional)

Jun 27 - Europe (Valencia)

Jul 11 - Great Britain (Donington Park)

Jul 25 - Germany (Hockenheim)

Aug 1 - Hungary (Budapest)

Aug 29 - Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)

Sep 12 - Italy (Monza)

Sep 26 - Singapore (starting at 2000 local time)

Oct 3 - Japan (Suzuka)

Oct 17 - South Korea (Yongam)

Oct 31 - Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina, starting at 1700 local time)

Nov 14 - Brazil (Interlagos)

It shits me when melbournes not first, it takes away all the winter testing mystique. Nobody gies a shit about the Bahrain GP and the lifeless boring track

Edited September 22, 2009 by ctjet

[Topkart R33]

What annoys me is the Bahrain has had poor attendance figures at the track for a few years now. Being it is the most anticipated race of the new season it would make more sense to allow a more accessable track for the average person and hardcore racing fan to attend rather that being stiffed to watch an average track with nothing to fill the tele but the lovely landscape of sand and empty grandstands....Approx 1/3 of the season's tracks are in this bracket which is slowly strangling the interests of fans who filled grandstands in more traditional venues in the past.

F1 is dying year by year whether it by controversy or greed of the dwarf man.

[Roy]

South Korea...fark me

[sh@un]

5pm start time for the Melbourne race?

They rigging up lighting for that?

[blackrex]

No need, we have daylight savings here (iirc Sh@un, your located in Perth?) so it's still daylight till around 8:30 at that time of year.

[blackrex]

The "friend" that Snr. wanted his son moved from was the sugardaddy that was plowing Jnr's fields in exchange for funding.

[Roy]

Catcing for the other team? Whatever, the guy shall ever be remembered to me as His Hackness!

[sh@un]

No need, we have daylight savings here (iirc Sh@un, your located in Perth?) so it's still daylight till around 8:30 at that time of year.

Sydney. The shadows will be getting very long on the ground by the end of the race

[Gts-t]

Im starting to get pumped for singapore fellas, i leave tomorrow at midnight

[Roy]

I am trying to decide between Oktoberfest in Munich and Singapore this weekend. Working in India is horrible but from tiem to tiem does present me with some tough decisions. Mick, you should PM me your contact number before you go

[Marlin]

Im starting to get pumped for singapore fellas, i leave tomorrow at midnight

Hope you have a ball mate! I was SO hoping to win that prize that ONE HD was running

[Beer Baron]

great write up but I wish they had spelt reckless correctly. call me a wanker but spelling mistakes in journalism do annoy me! lol.

they do make some very valid points. particularly about how the FIA is all over the bloody shop with ze punishment and it's now far beyond being funny. how sad that Jr is a homo. considering the amount of chicks he'd be able to pull it's a waste of a perfectly good wanger. that's enough to ban him right there.

[Marlin]

Yeah like seriously, how bent is Mosley, his retirement cannot come soon enough.

(gosh I hope thats all spelt and punctuated correctly)

[Beer Baron]

lol, I'm not that bad. but what shits me is people using words in place of the right word. like no for know. or breaks for brakes. or in this case wreckless for reckless. it's a curse....