Pwr Performance Barrel Intercooler

[Draconis]

Hey mates, I know we are all used to the FMIC setup with air to air intercooler setup. But what about this liquid to air cooler setup where the air is forced through a barrel and cooled off by the liquid. This setup has it's own mini rad and stuff. Wondering if you knew much about this company and the products. I would like to see some actual hard numbers or some more information on how it works and its efficiency. Cheers.

http://www.pwr.com.au/#view=products&s=is

[lineskee 33]

Interesting. I would really like to see this fitted showing good results. If this shows improvement over the fmic I'd say it would be a big seller.

[Cjmartz2k]

They are expensive. A buddy of mine here on Okinawa is running one on his evo. 2bar out of a GT35r all day long--one sode of the intercooler is hot as hell, the other side feels almost ambiant temp right after a run under the hot hood. And he's just using regular water, but he could put ice water in it if he wanted.

[Draconis]

They are expensive. A buddy of mine here on Okinawa is running one on his evo. 2bar out of a GT35r all day long--one sode of the intercooler is hot as hell, the other side feels almost ambiant temp right after a run under the hot hood. And he's just using regular water, but he could put ice water in it if he wanted.

So, would you suggest it by chance?

[rumbles]

mate put simply,go to the drag strip there eveywhere and work getter then any fmic will ever.

iv had them on my tt 20b roary and tt v8s with a lot of success and most top teams in the top end of rotary and turbo v8s are using them or the dry ice cooler.

im about to run one big one in my 32 gtr so ill post pics when she is done.

[Draconis]

Thank you rumbles. It's not that I was in a sense indecisive, I just hadnt had any personal experience with them. I can seem to find solid information about their strengths and/or weaknesses. A lot of people still debating them. Looking at their price, I needed more of solid information for me to ditch my current FMIC setup in favor of this. Cheers.

[Adriano]

Although i think they are great, there are 1500hp gtr's running air/air intercoolers, and i cant justify the added expense of the water/air. They work well on dyno queens and drag cars though, but really couldnt work significantly better on a road car, and certainly not for a circuit car. The real gain comes from putting a colder substance than water in the cooler, but it only works for a very short period of time.

[WHITER33GTS-T]

I have 1 on my Nissan Terrano 4x4. Turbo diesel. Its got a modified HKS turbo running 17psi and it seems great. It has a fan on the radiator that runs full time and works a treat in the bush.

They are expensive tho thats the only down side.

[Fitzpatrick Speed Works]

If you where going to run water to air PWR is the only brand that you would consider. PWR is a company built on quality without compromise, but you pay for it; their stuff isnt cheap but when I spend the extra money on PWR stuff I am never disapointed.

[bradsm87]

Although i think they are great, there are 1500hp gtr's running air/air intercoolers, and i cant justify the added expense of the water/air. They work well on dyno queens and drag cars though, but really couldnt work significantly better on a road car, and certainly not for a circuit car. The real gain comes from putting a colder substance than water in the cooler, but it only works for a very short period of time.

Dyno queens? They don't give more power than FMIC's. They have much better throttle response due to sustantially shorter piping and lower pressure drop.

[PM-R33]

My old man has a PWR water-air setup on his blown monaro, works great, but as said they are a bit pricey.

Draconis, have you thought about a FMIC with a water/meth setup? What's the car being used for?

[Draconis]

It's gonna be used for street purposes. At the moment 300rwhp is all I'm thinking of so I guess my air/air FMIC will be fine and maybe get a mister kit for it from what I'm reading since I'm not really gonna be demanding much of the motor as of yet.

[Beer Baron]

lol, for 300rwhp (about 210kw atw) the only one you should be considering is the stock standard 32/33/34 GTR cooler. 210kw at the wheels from an RB26 is basically a cat back exhaust and a higher flowing air filter.

[urtwhistle]

check out the Maytech drift car's, they run a water to air setup. I'm sure if u contacted MRMAYHEM I'm sure he could give u some specs on his setup.

regards

chris

[Adriano]

Dyno queens? They don't give more power than FMIC's. They have much better throttle response due to sustantially shorter piping and lower pressure drop.

They dont give more power than FMIC's are you kidding, -30 intake temps seem to tell otherwise, although you can do the same with a fmic by using a co2 spray. I seriously doubt you will notice any better response over a stock gtr setup, even though they have enormous diameter intercooler piping which is rated at around 1000hp.

[bradsm87]

They dont give more power than FMIC's are you kidding, -30 intake temps seem to tell otherwise, although you can do the same with a fmic by using a co2 spray. I seriously doubt you will notice any better response over a stock gtr setup, even though they have enormous diameter intercooler piping which is rated at around 1000hp.

Maybe -30 intake temps at first but around a track, the water warms up a fair bit even with a large radiator at the front.

[Draconis]

Well, even tho I am seeking only 300 now, I want to get some stuff setup for future use. Reason being is that the car wont stay at 300. I just need to get it running and out of storage for the time being to save some money. I'm thinking in the next couple of years working at the motor and get it running a bit more but if I'm in there doing the swap, might as well do some of the bolt on stuff/easy stuff to get it out of the way.