Hoons Targeted.....

[rhys5169]

in relation to hooning, has anyone seen the classic adelaide write up in the latest motor magazine?? policeman on a motorbike doing a mono on adelaide roads........ has his bike been impounded, and licence disqualified?

Edited January 15, 2009 by rhys5169

[CRoNic...]

Rhys, something like this?:

or even:

[CRoNic...]

Thanks, Google Images:

[Krishy]

hahah good one there boys

[RubyRS4]

As happy as ...

[rhys5169]

lol

[whatsisname]

AIR is not owned by the Government. Not their problem. This topic has been covered ... time and time again.

The onus is not on the Government to find you a place to "hoon". We have Mallala for that anyway. Its not that far to travel.

Most people boast about affording $1000+ on mods, but can't afford a $120 track day. Far cheaper than a speeding ticket in any case. I have a double mortgage, and I can still afford to travel all the way to Mallala for track days.

Such a poor view to take on this issue. Reuben, I would have expected better from you.

I would argue that the illegal 'hoon' activities that make the biggest headlines (Aust' wide) and cause the biggest impact, are those that center around illegal street racing. I've lost count of the headlines that talk of illegal 'drag racing' and the horrible end results.

As for Mallala, it's plain and simple, the place isn't set-up for genuine 1/4 mile racing, not even close. So, how does one get their fix of drag racing action in the flesh, hands on? They either don't, or they partake in something that is a bandaid fix (Mallala) or do something illegal on public roads.

You say it's not a Rann Government problem. I'd say they clearly have a problem! Why do you think they're putting so much pressure on the SA police force and other motor vehicle regulatory bodies in relation to 'hoon' driving? Sure you can never completely remove the 'hoon' element from society, but supporting a multi-purpose drag racing venue and providing a safer, legal option for those that are more likely to do the right thing given an alternative is surely a step in the right direction, don't you think? Give the hoon element and the fringe dwellers (those that will only offend if they have no other way to get their 'fix') an alternative!

The WA, NSW, TAS, QLD and NT Governments' obviously agree, hence they supported the exact same thing I have suggested. I don't have my head in the sand and realise that these states still have their illegal street racing problems, but I would argue that without their legal alternatives things would be a lot worse. The picture of the NT Police VY SS on the Hidden Valley drag strip above is precisely what I'm getting at! The NT Government have acknowledged that they can take positive and pro-active steps to encourage safe, sensible, and legal means of performance 'hoon' driving. And they even devote tax payers funds to do it - the VY SS.

The pros outweigh the cons.

But hey, why not just target performance car enthusiasts as much as possible, defect people to buggery, and generally treat these types of people as the criminals they are! That way the Government makes lots of bonus revenue and the average joe public thinks the Government have got it under control and are doing a great job.

[rhys5169]

very well said

[R32Jimbo]

thats the most annoying part the majority of us obey the road rules, and the wankers just ruin it for all of us...

[RubyRS4]

Such a poor view to take on this issue. Reuben, I would have expected better from you.

When you hear the same argument coming back time and time again, you lose a little interest in serving sugar with the same old bad news.

That was a quick one para view of the issue. As detailed many posts back, did you have a read of that? The Government has more important areas to spend money on. However, it would be in their interest to look into assisting in re-opening AIR, but its an economic decision that won't be made by our current state government.

We work with the State Government on development and planning matters across the state, and altho I'm a car enthusiast myself, even I can't justify any Government spending on AIR when its not an economical benefit to the state. It may be a policing benefit (getting the hoons off the road), but you don't seriously think hoons will stop racing on the street? Besides, there is more revenue involved in catching them on the streets, than financing a drag strip.

Mallala was mentioned for those wanting to "go fast" not necessarily in a straight line. Anyone can go fast in a straight line, thats the car doing the talking. Throw in a few corners and then thats the driver doing the talking!

[whatsisname]

I don't have time for a detailed reply, but what I will say is this, I acknowledge and agree that the SA Government has much bigger 'fish to fry' (my wife and brother-in-law are both State Government accountants in upper hierarchal financial and management accounting roles) however, if you read through my earlier post on this topic (did you read that one?) and read my post above with open eyes you'll see that all it really takes is for the SA Government to provide procedural support, cut through the red tape if you will.

Private backing and the funds required have never been a major issue, I was merely suggesting that some of the more forward thinking states and territories in this country were capable of committing tax payers money. States that are, coincidentally, moving forward and doing quite well.

You'll get no argument from me that it's a fantastic revenue raiser for the Rann Government, defect blitzing is a cash cow! What I will disagree with you about is the economic benefit of a drag racing venue to SA. If such a facility was to be built (or improved upon, in the case of redeveloping AIR - properly) then it could potentially inject money into the local economy by way of interstate visitors coming to watch and/or competing in large scale events - think Jamboree, Nationals, ANDRA Championship rounds, Top Fuel, Top Bike etc. Okay so it's not going to make millions in state revenue and boost the local economy to buggery, but it will certainly make a small impact and it will also have a positive follow-on in the other areas previously mentioned.

Take note of comments in para' 4 and 5 in my previous post with regards to, 'but you don't seriously think 'hoons' will stop racing on the streets?' I'll pose a question back to you, do you think having a venue won't make a difference at all, not one iota, no chance that a life could be saved by giving an alternative to 'hooning' on the streets?

Oh yes, everyone can go flat-out in a straight line, hence every novice drag racer 'nails' their steeds maximum potential first time out, without fail I like going fast around corners and in a straight line, but my talking is done at the end of the day, over a few beers and with a few mates with the ego's left behind.

[PREISS]

'over a few beers and with a few mates with the """""EGO'S"""" left behind.'''

Yes. well said.

[luke james]

Its not only just having a drag strip! It keeps people employed like all the speed shops etc, they have all said that having AIR shut down has affected people not buying all the performace parts and yes most of them will and would use them on a proper drag strip lets not beat around the bush Adelaide needs a motor sport venue....

Edited January 16, 2009 by luke james

[RubyRS4]

Take note of comments in para' 4 and 5 in my previous post with regards to, 'but you don't seriously think 'hoons' will stop racing on the streets?' I'll pose a question back to you, do you think having a venue won't make a difference at all, not one iota, no chance that a life could be saved by giving an alternative to 'hooning' on the streets?

That is an answer that has no measure. Because it has no tangible answer is another reason why the Government won't invest in it.

Pour money into a hospital and you know lives will be saved, even tho this too is unmeasurable.

So ... there is no one straight answer for this matter. Makes for good debate tho