78 Yr Old Caught Under Hoon Laws

[Slow S13]

I remember back to "Every k over is a killer!"

Hi Ivan, Hi Bryan, Hi Fred. Hi James.....ect ect

How many killers are in your car??

[FATAZZ]

Even though 170 on a public road is a bit "spirited" I think they way the government is trying to bundle speeding into the same basket as drink driving and murder is rediculous.

A lot of their campaigns are based on the "even 1kmh over" bullshit, lets face it that's a load of bollocks. All speed limits are based on a decision by some twerp in the city planner section, or worse.

I've been on many signposted 100kmh roads that have put the fear of god into me if I've gone over 80kmh.

The government needs to man up, stop feeding eveyone bullshit statistics and maybe go for the truth. Getting the road toll to under 300 will be impossible as the drving population booms each year, maybe if they randomly disqualified a million licences it may get down that low.

Surely someone out there has tallied up that each year more and more money is injected into road safety, yet the road toll goes up.....how about we pull all police funding, maybe the toll will go down?

+1 on that. Some sections of Silverdale rd where its 100km/h i felt heaps unsafe. trucks heading opposite direction and all plus the roads just wide enough to fit two cars with an enbankment(spelling) and trees within 1-2m of the side of the road.

[GTR-N1]

...should set a better example to young guys like me

[ras1983]

...should set a better example to younger guys like me

[DAN00H]

Good one the old guy for sticking it to the cops clearly he knows the road, his ability and car...

when we continue to lose motorsport venues (Oran park, Canberra dragway) this sort of thing will happen. the world is too PC and too quick to jump into litigation.

Thumbs up for showing some spirit

[bombtrack]

I gotta say, without trying to be inflammatory or start a fight, I don't think it matters how well this guy knows the road, or his ability or his car, or his age or the fact that the closing of race tracks pushed him to do it, what this guy did was stupid and irresponsible. It's nice to see someone standing up for their rights, but in this case he had no rights except the right to remain silent (sorry , couldn't help myself).

I think it's very very unfortunate that this all happened during a sanctioned car club meeting... like we as groups of enthusiasts don't have enough trouble with being tarred with the "hoon" brush.

+1 for the inadequacy of statistics in this particular issue.

[DAN00H]

I gotta say, without trying to be inflammatory or start a fight, I don't think it matters how well this guy knows the road, or his ability or his car, or his age or the fact that the closing of race tracks pushed him to do it, what this guy did was stupid and irresponsible. It's nice to see someone standing up for their rights, but in this case he had no rights except the right to remain silent (sorry , couldn't help myself).

I think it's very very unfortunate that this all happened during a sanctioned car club meeting... like we as groups of enthusiasts don't have enough trouble with being tarred with the "hoon" brush.

+1 for the inadequacy of statistics in this particular issue.

No hassles mate - everyone is entitled to their own opinion, why should I or anyone else have an issue with that

Normally if it was a residential street (60km zone with people everywhere) I'd be down on that behaviour... just really sh*ts me the way media and politics run so many peoples lives (AND opinions!) and jump on this sort of thing like it's money (anyone reading between the lines there?).

don't even get me started on the fact most of the people making such preposterous laws were doing stupider things in their day...

[bombtrack]

Agree with you 100%

[zZzDanzZz]

lol all that media coverage, and yet people who talk on phones when driving, putting on make up and not paying attention to the road are still out there.

also has anyone else heard that when they tried to enforce a speed limit on the Autobahn they had more crashes cause people were getting distracted so they took it off right away? dont know if thats true though but it sounds about right haha

[sneakey pete]

I don't think that's true. I think you've got it confused with a small German town that, in the last few years, removed all of their roadsigns because they were distracting motorists to much. But that was for a main street and residential kind of thing, not for a dual carriageway or an arterial road. (eg, people wouldn't be doing 200km/h down it even if there wasn't signs)

Edited January 15, 2009 by sneakey pete

[zZzDanzZz]

ahh ok lol

i'd love to go on the autobahn when im older and loaded with monies

[Slide]

300 people per year is nothing compared to all other causes of death yet its the most policed and publicly advertised vendetta against the population ever.

Fire the police force dedicated to the roads and train more scientists to cure cancer for f**ks sake and utilize national budgets for a greater good.

I remember when i was younger my uncle raced an officer in his SLR 5000 with me in the back seat.

That's true public relations right there and a sign that times have obviously changed..... weigh it up.

I don't condone acts of driving against the law though the last time i checked they were road rules and were never meant to be punishable by law as it was never made out to be a crime/criminal act and still is not.

Soon to come will be cars with monitors to automatically fine people when some entrepreneur figures out some way to make a profit from it. It is simply a matter of time.

I was pulled over by highway patrol for speeding early December to a hospital coming back from down south, nearly at my destination i was held for half an hour in morning heat until 2 ambulances came.

3 fines later i still have to pay for what an ambulance inevitably did anyway....Sped me to the hospital leaving my car in crimeville.

A disabled permit apparently has no legitimacy when your number plates are Slide though 300mg of Kapanol a day does as well as a straight shot of 15mg of morphine upon arrival.

I'm concerned and calling shenanigans.

3 fines hurts like a prick in the ass.

If the old fella wants to feel the wind blow in what little hair he has left then go for it, just don't kill anyone else but yourself.

If he makes it 301 per year its still a pin prick against the leading cause of unnatural death in Australia.

[Tangles]

meh

no big deal, stupid thing is he got caught !!!

pick your time, your place, and no one is in any danger whatsoever

slide: how you going aaron? havent slept for 3 days cause the knees are ruined. just missionary position ruins me for a week !

[ras1983]

Firstly, I don't advocate speeding on public roads. I've said it before and I'll say it again, public roads aren't race tracks. But I'm annoyed as hell that the government doesn't actually seem to do anything to reduce the road toll other than fine people. If they in fact DID care about reducing the road toll they would increase driver training and awareness.

As it stands, there is more emphasis now on the 'virtual driving tests' than on actual driving when someone goes to get their p-plates. Apparently if you can touch a computer screen at the right time you're considered worthy of a driving license.

[Slide]

meh

no big deal, stupid thing is he got caught !!!

pick your time, your place, and no one is in any danger whatsoever

slide: how you going aaron? havent slept for 3 days cause the knees are ruined. just missionary position ruins me for a week !

Same old mate, email me your number again [email protected] and will give you a call for some ammo.

Might start up the pain killer thread again see who else is broken now.

[gts-4 dreamer]

LOL it's got the media on the "road toll increases each year" band wagon....I wonder if they realise the inexperienced driving population increases each year as well? Most likely per capita the road toll is actually dropping, but that would just be a bit too controversial to admit!!!!

It is in fact reducing in overall numbers, has been the last 2-3 years and that is a LARGE decrease given the increase in population used to measure against. Coppers have been patting themselves on the back for quite some time. Any policemen with the actual information will advise you on it. Attend your local weekly driver coarse.. Can't rem what they are called but drunk drivers, speeders, repetitive offenders etc attend the coarse to dodge tickets / community service etc. It will be informative for you.

THe leading killers / Causes of death of australian's on a yearly basis is by far tobaco related with 49% of the pie chart. The second is alcohol related with 38%. If you take into account ALL forms of death recorded in australia. For the 3rd it is motor vehicle related incidents. This is not something to ignore, this is why there is so much in anti smoking campaigns and road campaigns. Alcohol's related is mostly from being run over which leads into vehicle accident though it's usually the fact the drunk is not driving hence why it's not clasified as a vehicular.

Our govt is actively trying to get you to not smoke, not do stupid things while drinking, infact the new laws that have come in to prevent you doing stupid shit on the drink and they have always been cracking down on P platers, because they are the motorist with big red P signs on them saying, HEY I am in the most statistically likely age group to have an accident. The 18-25 age group is almost 50% of all accidents per year when compared with the entire age range in the community of drivers. 18-2(4/5) are 50% of all accidents when compared with ALL the age ranges in the remaining 25 - 75+ ranges. This sort of information fuels strategic desicisions and tactical implementations.

Statistics are not relevant to the individual so don't give me arguements about it really and I will concede now my information could be a year or 2 out of date. If that negates it for you. Wonderful.

[fuzzy_scuz]

How can a cyclist kill a Pedisterian and get a $200 fine, a car would be prision!

I do not believe the road rules are FAIR at all to all classes of vehicles, and that speed cameras and radars etc.. are all forms of revenue raising. Why aren't these on places on roads where the most accidents occur?

Why do we allow Trucks in every god damn lane on a freeway or highway over 80?

Why are putting in Bus lanes for buses to leap traffic and slow everything else up again?

Why do we vote for such spineless, spinnsters who give us toll ways instead of freeways?

Why do we vote for people who screw up water and state infrastructure?

Maybe because we accept it and don't give a $H1T! or there is nothing else?

[gts-4 dreamer]

Your alternatives arent better options at the moment. It's mostly whats worse? Everyone knows that liberals don't build, they are the hack an slash liquidator types. Poor choices amongst a sea of bad options.

[ras1983]

Choosing one political party over the other is like choosing one torture method over the other. Either way it's going to hurt.

[eeiko321]

What on earth was he thinking?

probably thinking........ "i was around, when you were squirting in your dad's bag!"