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Jays_5000

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Howdy, I have a 1996 s1 RS four and it has been slipping fairly bad in 3rd and overdrive is nearly impossible for anything other than maintaining speed on flat ground. I don't really know anything about auto box's in general but I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue and can help me with a solution.

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Jayson

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msports180 Mentor

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Might be worth getting the gbox serviced, sometimes having new fluid and getting the bands tightened can help. But if its slipping really badly might be beyond help. 3rd and overdrive might share the same clutch pack and these may be burnt out causing them to slip. It can even be a shift solenoid not giving enough pressure to hold the gear.

It might even be low on fluid?

take it to a gbox specialist asap and get them to look at it, im pretty sure that they can scan these to to see if its anything electonic?

KiwiRS4T Grand Master

KiwiRS4T

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Howdy, I have a 1996 s1 RS four and it has been slipping fairly bad in 3rd and overdrive is nearly impossible for anything other than maintaining speed on flat ground. I don't really know anything about auto box's in general but I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue and can help me with a solution.

Cheers

Jayson

Take it to an auto trans service place. They should diagnose and quote for free. In my area I can get another box for $400 so I wouldn't be spending $1500 on a rebuild.
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Went and booked it in for a service today and hopefully find the problem while its in there. Could be worth buying another box if it is going to cost too much.

Where abouts are you finding gearboxes for $400 and would anywhere be able to ship it down for me?

Thanks

Jayson

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Went and booked it in for a service today and hopefully find the problem while its in there. Could be worth buying another box if it is going to cost too much.

Where abouts are you finding gearboxes for $400 and would anywhere be able to ship it down for me?

Thanks

Jayson

That's in NZ. Freight could be prohibitive but if you really need one i could make some enquiries. Hopefully it will be a small repair or adjustment and you won't need one. Skyline one should fit too but don't know how you are fixed in your neck of the woods.
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not long after reading this thread 3rd gear let go in my Stagea :D... It shifts fine from 1st to 2nd but when it try's to shift to 3rd just revs and i have to manually shift the auto back to 2 speed.. taking mine up to my mates house to throw it on his hoist, give the transmission a service, tighten the bands, if no difference looks like a rebuild for me.. :yes:

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hey guys, this has happened to me to.. ended up being my clutch packs and needed a rebuild which cost $2000.. dont waste money on a service if its slipping really bad, it will return to slipping in a few more months.. i know from experience :D . also if u do get a rebuild look at geting a shift kit or shift improver( milder than a stage 1 shift kit)

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Au...=shift+improver

link to shift kit thread. this is the first atempt at fixing my slipping. 1st and 3rd share the same clutchpack

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RBPOWA-(TJ) Grand Master

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mine is being stupid today.

have had a slow leak for a while now (2months) been no problems with it.

but starting from last week, it i take a corner, no matter wat speek 15ks 30ks, it wants to drop back on gear and rev it out untill i set the wheel straight it will move up a gear.

and then today it reved out 1st gear and went into 2nd gear really rough (like quick shift, Thud) then went into third took a corner, id didnt drop down a gear around turn.

but i didnt drop down a gear at all, stayed in third, up hill in third, didnt really move, had to pull over put in park and back to drive, still wasnt moving out of third.

shut the car down check fluids looked a little low not major, turned car back on A/T light flashin for about a min. drove it home like a granny, but had no over drive at 80k's so i was doing 2,200rpm.

anyone know the part number for a service kit and a good place to take mine in Melbourne South east, and hopfully this week, need it for a long haul this weekend coming up ... thanks heaps

DaveB Mentor

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/\ /\ /\ /\ Don't know if this helps but the tiptronic will stick in third when it goes into its limp-mode (different to the ECU limp-mode). It can be something as basic as loss of power to the ignition circuit which causes this; I had a similar issue with my S2.

My auto 'box is running great currently, and has been for about the last 15,000K's or so. However during the time I've owned my S2 (almost a year), it has cost me about $1,100 in gearbox work. ~$650 of that was for a new solenoid rack. I pity you auto owners without a place like MV Automatics (which we have in Adelaide - hehe at least we have SOMETHING) to go to when you have a problem like this. I thought the 'box was a goner but Mike had the diagnostic gear, took the car for a drive and knew what was going on. If you can find a good specialist anything is possible...

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RBPOWA-(TJ) Grand Master

RBPOWA-(TJ)

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Been recommended to Knox Auto's.

rang them told the dude i have a nissan stagea auto.

he asked r33 or r34 auto ?

so he know's his cars. and a few dudes here in Vic had work done there. taking it there tomorrow :D get the seal fixed and a service kit installed and car should be all good,

and i dont like your 4 digit price tag dave

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mine is being stupid today.

have had a slow leak for a while now (2months) been no problems with it.

but starting from last week, it i take a corner, no matter wat speek 15ks 30ks, it wants to drop back on gear and rev it out untill i set the wheel straight it will move up a gear.

and then today it reved out 1st gear and went into 2nd gear really rough (like quick shift, Thud) then went into third took a corner, id didnt drop down a gear around turn.

but i didnt drop down a gear at all, stayed in third, up hill in third, didnt really move, had to pull over put in park and back to drive, still wasnt moving out of third.

shut the car down check fluids looked a little low not major, turned car back on A/T light flashin for about a min. drove it home like a granny, but had no over drive at 80k's so i was doing 2,200rpm.

anyone know the part number for a service kit and a good place to take mine in Melbourne South east, and hopfully this week, need it for a long haul this weekend coming up ... thanks heaps

FWIW the old Jatco 3N71B was very sensitive to fluid level, only 500ml (to bring it up to mid/top on the dipstick) would be the difference between intermittent drive & 100% ok.

Even the fluid lost while changing over the cooler (not that much) would be enough to make the box misbehave without a top-up.

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FWIW the old Jatco 3N71B was very sensitive to fluid level, only 500ml (to bring it up to mid/top on the dipstick) would be the difference between intermittent drive & 100% ok.

Even the fluid lost while changing over the cooler (not that much) would be enough to make the box misbehave without a top-up.

Interesting... is that the tiptronic?

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Interesting... is that the tiptronic?

Ha!, the 3N71B is found in '70's Mazdas, Toyotas & Nissans. I think it made it's first appearance in 1970 & was used right up until the mid 80's before it was replaced by the 4N71B. Then came the RE401 series...

Tiptronic would be an interesting feature!

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Ha!, the 3N71B is found in '70's Mazdas, Toyotas & Nissans. I think it made it's first appearance in 1970 & was used right up until the mid 80's before it was replaced by the 4N71B. Then came the RE401 series...

Tiptronic would be an interesting feature!

Ah ok. RE401, that's us...

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Stagea_Neo Experienced

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+ 1 for Knox Automatics.

Great knowledge, experience, honest customer service and a great bloke to chat too about anything cars.

I was there the other week, got my solenoids replaced + service / new filter/fluid the usual....

The Stag is sooo smooth and a pleasure to drive now :D.

Can hardly wait to wake up each morning and go driving.

Pete

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