Shit Tyres In The Wet Or Crappy Suspension Setup?

[Psymon]

yeah camber kit was installed as was rear subframe alignment kit .. could the rear subframe kit have something to do with this crappy traction issue ?

Unless i'm thinking of something completely different, the subframe alignment kit could have something to do with it. They can be installed in 3 positions, drift neutral or traction. I've heard from a few people if they've been installed in the drift position it made their cars quite slippery. Might be worth looking into.

[blind_elk]

Have you considered that during dry spells quite an amount of oil and sh!t gets deposited on the road surface. Then the road gets wet by rain. Oil and water don't mix.

[Wacky Dee]

Yes I have and i'm well aware of that. However this is not my first car ever. I drove a heavy 4WD before it as well as various sedans and I've never fishtailed in rain cornering at normal speed.

[some_cs_student]

I'd personally say you may have some low quality tyres and expect too much of the car.

The GTR has Dunlop LeMans tyres, and they handle great in the dry, in the wet its a different story, they're not so good anymore, my suspension alignment and camber kit is done.

My suspension setup does great in dry weather, but been a front-heavy car I have lost the rear in the wet (accidentally of course) before, its very easy to correct though.

[bubba]

Shit tyres.

I had a set of LingLongs at one point, they would spin 4th in the wet and 3rd in the dry and also step out around corners with no throttle (2-way diff doesn't help heh).

My current tyres don't do any of that.

[Wacky Dee]

hmm I'll have to try different brand next time then .. but that wont be for another couple of years I reckon. I thought the Maxxis MAZ1's were pretty decent according to some reviews. I think some mag said they were better than some of the top-end tyres that cost like $450 a piece.

Cars been in the shop for a while ..havent had much chance to drive it since upping the tyre pressure. Will see how that goes first.. Thanks all for the suggestions

[some_cs_student]

Check the tyres sticky, they show what tyres users here have used and reviewed....you will find some tyres are excellent in the dry and pretty terrible in the wet.

[br3ndan]

Check the tyres sticky, they show what tyres users here have used and reviewed....you will find some tyres are excellent in the dry and pretty terrible in the wet.

eg fed 595 SS LOL!

[zZzDanzZz]

eg fed 595 SS LOL!

too true lol. ive got them on my car. great in the dry, very average in the wet (nothing shit though)

[bubba]

My 595SS's are pretty good in the wet, have never felt "unsafe" with them.

Edited January 21, 2009 by bubba

[Wacky Dee]

Unless i'm thinking of something completely different, the subframe alignment kit could have something to do with it. They can be installed in 3 positions, drift neutral or traction. I've heard from a few people if they've been installed in the drift position it made their cars quite slippery. Might be worth looking into.

hey guys can anyone confirm this or tell me how to check which position/setting my rear subframe alignment kit has been set to ??

[bubba]

Look at where the bushes are, neutral they will be in the same spot front and back. Traction they will be installed in such a way that the cradle points up at the front (to give more squat, so bushes will be under the cradle on the front and in between the cradle and chassis on the back). Drift they are installed to point the front of the cradle down (bushes between cradle and chassis on the front, and underneath cradle on the back).

Hope that makes sense

[Wacky Dee]

hm I better take some piccies and post them up here hey ? hope you can take a look

[bubba]

Yeah give it a bash, if I remember this thread is here I'll have a look

[Country Cruzin]

hey man learn to drive or them tyres are just plain shit. get some decent tyres an try that, no point dyin to save 1500 bucks aint no good for you or another driver if you get killed. i've had crap tyres nankangs were no good in the wet got rid of them at bout 1500km an got some falken 452 (375/17's) bout $400 a tyre absolutley awesome in the wet. will only spin in the wet if your really tryin an can still corner fairly hard without lettin go at all an when it does it's usally fairly smooth an thats generally only when you do it on purpose.

[Wacky Dee]

Edited February 6, 2009 by Delta Force

[bubba]

Are you able to take a photo from side on? i.e. get both pineapples on one side in the photo, as far as I can tell I can only see the rear pineapples in the photos..

[Wacky Dee]

ok this will sound stupid, but what are pineapples?

[bubba]

The yellow circular subframe bushes

[Wacky Dee]

ok can you please tell me what you mean by 'side on' ? Did you want a photo from under the front of the car ie. front suspension?